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JJ-NYC · 02-10-2013, 01:04 PM

Brief background: This thread was started by H&L and edited by JJ-NYC.

At a Grateful Dead show at Deer Creek Amphitheatre, 'joebrand' (aka 'wonkanobe') and 'pbud' met 'chemdog' and sold him an ounce of very high quality pot for $500. joe and chemdog exchanged numbers and they later arranged for two ounces to be shipped to chemdog on the east coast. According to chemdog, one ounce was seedless and the other had 13 seeds.

In ’91, chemdog popped the first 4 seeds. From these seeds, one male was found and disposed of (chemdog was young, you can’t blame him). The 3 females were labeled ‘chemdawg’ (now ’91 chemdawg), ‘chemdawg a’ (now chemdawg’s sister), and ‘chemdawg b’. In '01, chemdog and his girlfriend attempted to germ 3 more seeds, labeled ‘c’, ‘d’, and ‘e’. the ‘e’ seed never germinated, ‘c’ turned out to be junk (according to chemdog), and chemdawg ‘d’ was the keeper. In '06, 'chemdog' and 'joebrand' reunited and joe was given 4 of the last 6 beans: Chemdawg phenos 1-4, '4' being the chosen keeper. Joe thought the '4' was the best representation of the original and thus dubbed it the 'reunion pheno'.

In 1992, JJ became friends with the Weasel in central park. Sometime in 1992-93 the Weasel met Chemdog at a Phish show. They traded clones and he brought the Mass. Super Skunk and 91 Chemdog back with him to New York City and renamed the 91 Chem, "Diesel". Sour Diesel and Under Dawg came out of these clones.

Original Chemdawg Crosses:
• 'OG Kush' (the original cut) came from an s1 from in a bag of '91 Chemdawg in the Lake Tahoe area in 1996.
• 'Sour Diesel' aka ECSD came from an accidental cross of ('91 Chemdawg x DNL after the DNL hermed and seeded the room. The DNL's lineage is Hawaiian/RFK Skunk X NL.) or 91 Chemdawg X Mass Super Skunk
• Underdawg came from a cross of '91 Chemdawg x (Mass Super Skunk x Sensi's Northern Lights) done by a guy known as ‘weasel’.

• 'chemdog' and friends made several crosses that are held closely by a small group of friends and acquaintances. Among them are:

1. Super Snowdawg (Bubble Chem x [Super skunk x Oregon Sno])
2. Giesel (Chem D x Mass Super Skunk)
3. Bubble Chem (Chemdawg’s Sister x Sag's Bubbleberry)
4. Dawg Daze aka ChemHaze (Chem D x ’93 Sensi's NL#5/Haze)
5. Chemdawg D x Pbud (another old-school Colorado strain)

JJ-NYC has been working on a Chemdawg D-based seed line for several years now. He started by crossing Chemdawg D to Sensi's Afghani after thoroughly testing both Sensi's Afghani and Sensi's Hindu Kush to determine which was more stable and would be better for the initial cross. JJ then did a backcross, known as "Double Dawg." Several phenos of this circulate and several people still have beans. JJ's latest work to the line is a second backcross known as "Tres Dawg" which is just starting to get tested. The Tres has produced many keeper strains, Tres Dawg, Star Dawg, White Dawg, and recently a new 91 Chem cross, Original New York City Diesel.

dank.frank · 02-18-2013, 06:50 AM

So wait - let me get this right..

"...and recently a new 91 Chem cross, Original NYCD."

So JJ - you are making '91 Chem x Tres Dawg = original NYCD?

Did I get that correct?

dank.Frank

AzGrOw-N-sMoKe · 02-18-2013, 07:01 AM

Cant wait to score some new tdog strains... Az

JJ-NYC · 02-18-2013, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dank.frank

So wait - let me get this right..

"...and recently a new 91 Chem cross, Original NYCD."

So JJ - you are making '91 Chem x Tres Dawg = original NYCD?

Did I get that correct?

dank.Frank

Original New York City Diesel(91 Chem X Tres Dawg)

jochen_45 · 02-18-2013, 02:11 PM

The 'Original New York City Diesel' looks nice and I would like to
grow that strain! So it would be good to see it at the seedbay
or -boo, just to have a chance of gettin' it.
Thanks a lot for showing your strain!

dank.frank · 02-18-2013, 02:11 PM

I'll take that as a yes.

Looks on point.

dank.Frank

JJ-NYC · 05-01-2014, 12:29 PM

Check out the Chem Dog discussion in the second hours of the 4/09 and 4/30 Adam Dunn shows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=l9Hxa-muaF8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuEMdwL14rs

3rd-3yed · 05-01-2014, 01:13 PM

2nd link don't work JJ

Rowz74 · 05-06-2014, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dank.frank

So wait - let me get this right..

"...and recently a new 91 Chem cross, Original NYCD."

So JJ - you are making '91 Chem x Tres Dawg = original NYCD?

Did I get that correct?

dank.Frank

Hope he makes more of these, here are mine

dutchmasters420 · 05-16-2014, 09:56 AM

Nothing like walking through the city and smelling that smoking that stank!

I remember getting nugs with bright orange hairs that smelled like straight diesel fuel. No clue what it was other then "diesel". Some of my favorite bud ever.

As a NYer, it seems sour is the most widely available on the street the last 10-12 years, any reasons?

Smoking on stardawg guava now, truly top notch.

02-10-2013, 01:04 PM	#1
JJ-NYC Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 256	Chemdog History Brief background: This thread was started by H&L and edited by JJ-NYC. At a Grateful Dead show at Deer Creek Amphitheatre, 'joebrand' (aka 'wonkanobe') and 'pbud' met 'chemdog' and sold him an ounce of very high quality pot for $500. joe and chemdog exchanged numbers and they later arranged for two ounces to be shipped to chemdog on the east coast. According to chemdog, one ounce was seedless and the other had 13 seeds. In ’91, chemdog popped the first 4 seeds. From these seeds, one male was found and disposed of (chemdog was young, you can’t blame him). The 3 females were labeled ‘chemdawg’ (now ’91 chemdawg), ‘chemdawg a’ (now chemdawg’s sister), and ‘chemdawg b’. In '01, chemdog and his girlfriend attempted to germ 3 more seeds, labeled ‘c’, ‘d’, and ‘e’. the ‘e’ seed never germinated, ‘c’ turned out to be junk (according to chemdog), and chemdawg ‘d’ was the keeper. In '06, 'chemdog' and 'joebrand' reunited and joe was given 4 of the last 6 beans: Chemdawg phenos 1-4, '4' being the chosen keeper. Joe thought the '4' was the best representation of the original and thus dubbed it the 'reunion pheno'. In 1992, JJ became friends with the Weasel in central park. Sometime in 1992-93 the Weasel met Chemdog at a Phish show. They traded clones and he brought the Mass. Super Skunk and 91 Chemdog back with him to New York City and renamed the 91 Chem, "Diesel". Sour Diesel and Under Dawg came out of these clones. Original Chemdawg Crosses: • 'OG Kush' (the original cut) came from an s1 from in a bag of '91 Chemdawg in the Lake Tahoe area in 1996. • 'Sour Diesel' aka ECSD came from an accidental cross of ('91 Chemdawg x DNL after the DNL hermed and seeded the room. The DNL's lineage is Hawaiian/RFK Skunk X NL.) or 91 Chemdawg X Mass Super Skunk • Underdawg came from a cross of '91 Chemdawg x (Mass Super Skunk x Sensi's Northern Lights) done by a guy known as ‘weasel’. • 'chemdog' and friends made several crosses that are held closely by a small group of friends and acquaintances. Among them are: 1. Super Snowdawg (Bubble Chem x [Super skunk x Oregon Sno]) 2. Giesel (Chem D x Mass Super Skunk) 3. Bubble Chem (Chemdawg’s Sister x Sag's Bubbleberry) 4. Dawg Daze aka ChemHaze (Chem D x ’93 Sensi's NL#5/Haze) 5. Chemdawg D x Pbud (another old-school Colorado strain) JJ-NYC has been working on a Chemdawg D-based seed line for several years now. He started by crossing Chemdawg D to Sensi's Afghani after thoroughly testing both Sensi's Afghani and Sensi's Hindu Kush to determine which was more stable and would be better for the initial cross. JJ then did a backcross, known as "Double Dawg." Several phenos of this circulate and several people still have beans. JJ's latest work to the line is a second backcross known as "Tres Dawg" which is just starting to get tested. The Tres has produced many keeper strains, Tres Dawg, Star Dawg, White Dawg, and recently a new 91 Chem cross, Original New York City Diesel. Last edited by JJ-NYC; 05-26-2014 at 08:40 PM..
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02-18-2013, 06:50 AM	#2
dank.frank ef.yu.se.ka.e.em Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: hiding in plain sight Posts: 10,033	So wait - let me get this right.. "...and recently a new 91 Chem cross, Original NYCD." So JJ - you are making '91 Chem x Tres Dawg = original NYCD? Did I get that correct? dank.Frank __________________ https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=258168 Bunch of fake ass neo-capitalists masquerading as counter culture cannabis enthusiasts with their thinly veiled self-justifications catering to the morally ambiguous for the sake of the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR
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02-18-2013, 07:01 AM	#3
AzGrOw-N-sMoKe desert cultivator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: the desert Posts: 589	Cant wait to score some new tdog strains... Az __________________ Latest grow- https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=247332 I might stink like weed but i'll NEVER stink like FEAR A man who never made a mistake never made ANYTHING ...
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02-18-2013, 02:11 PM	#6
dank.frank ef.yu.se.ka.e.em Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: hiding in plain sight Posts: 10,033	I'll take that as a yes. Looks on point. dank.Frank __________________ https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=258168 Bunch of fake ass neo-capitalists masquerading as counter culture cannabis enthusiasts with their thinly veiled self-justifications catering to the morally ambiguous for the sake of the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR
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05-01-2014, 12:29 PM	#7
JJ-NYC Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 256	Check out the Chem Dog discussion in the second hours of the 4/09 and 4/30 Adam Dunn shows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=l9Hxa-muaF8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuEMdwL14rs Last edited by JJ-NYC; 05-01-2014 at 09:53 PM..
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02-18-2013, 02:11 PM	#5
jochen_45 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,276	The 'Original New York City Diesel' looks nice and I would like to grow that strain! So it would be good to see it at the seedbay or -boo, just to have a chance of gettin' it. Thanks a lot for showing your strain! __________________
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05-01-2014, 01:13 PM	#8
3rd-3yed Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 468	2nd link don't work JJ
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05-16-2014, 09:56 AM	#10
dutchmasters420 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 407	Nothing like walking through the city and smelling that smoking that stank! I remember getting nugs with bright orange hairs that smelled like straight diesel fuel. No clue what it was other then "diesel". Some of my favorite bud ever. As a NYer, it seems sour is the most widely available on the street the last 10-12 years, any reasons? Smoking on stardawg guava now, truly top notch.
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