[dank.frank]

Essentially, yes...that is my goal. But it isn't exactly what I hope people take from it...

The concept being that with a bit of time, selection, and commitment - we could ALL be making our own personal STRAINS - stable, consistent, from seed - STRAINS. Not just one off hybrids. We could be making a BIGGER impact on the genetic stable - rather than simply muddling in it without any real purpose or direction - ie taking whatever is trendy and pollinating it with expectations of magical progress arising from the happenstance.

An example GSC. - I still have a project with it - but it's back-burner now b/c I don't think I can give you a better plant than the clone by simply crossing it to something. I really think the better plants - the worth your money plants - are found some where in a Bx or Ix of GSC. Another example of this, imo - is Sour Dubble. Hard to make Dubb better than she is - ie Dubb x A, B, C, etc - not being better than just Dubb. BUT (Dubb x A) x B - seems to show promising results - that make Dubb worth breeding and looking at again. But back to GSC - I just don't know the best way to utilize what she is to make something BETTER...and I don't think hitting her up with dank males is the ticket. But I could be wrong...

Documenting this process will show people some successes and some failures along the way, in all likeliness - but at the finish line, yes - will be properly built strain - not just a quick hybrid. This requires introducing the right genetic elements at given times - and in order to do that, you have to have an arsenal of parents that will breed true for given alleles. And while I'm not in a lab and certainly am no scientist - over the years I've studied hard and gotten a bit of an understanding on how I want to approach my time spent in this hobby. No time like the present.



dank.Frank

[dank.frank]

For what it is worth - remember the 'ole tale of OG Kush being Lemon Thai x Afghani - I'm not sure we really know.

Even to say that TK was the origin point - it still begs the question - what is TK...lol...

Either way - I'm building very loosely on such a notion - and thus why I love the blue thai-influenced Digi line and all her expressions. I truly think I can lock in all that is "OG", in a completely different package.



dank.Frank

[soursmoker]

right on bro. I totally understand where you are coming from with that one. some crosses are just hyped up and pointless, while some are well thought out and the breeders go through multiple generations to isolate traits and whatnot.
As far as GSC, you are probably right, its already a poly-hybrid, its going to be hard to create something resmembling the clone unless you do multiple Bx's or Ix's or eventually lead up to an IBL. LOL there you go man, make a GSC IBL. they will be sold out before they drop just with that name...

I am in the same boat as you, not a scientist, and have even less resources. I would say if you plan on working the GSC, you will need to find yourself a nice OG male or maybe even something with some purple to color it back up. Then, this will be very hard, but, find a male in that seedlot that resembles the GSC as best as possible and Bx to clone, etc, etc.

But if you have a different plan in store, I have faith in you. And I know you will not release it unless you are satisfied. I know you wont just send them in to the bay because people will buy them. You will send them in, if you ever do, so people can find plants resembling the GSC clone or surpassing the clone.

And as far as everyone able to make their own strains, I agree. I'd say the only factors stopping more people from doing this are... laws, knowledge, and time. You could also throw space in there but that kinda relates to laws... lol

Thanks so much for what you are doing for this community. I've never been the guy to follow a breeder around and say how great everything he does is. BUT, what you are doing, is truly great!

[soursmoker]

Originally Posted by dank.frank

For what it is worth - remember the 'ole tale of OG Kush being Lemon Thai x Afghani - I'm not sure we really know.

Even to say that TK was the origin point - it still begs the question - what is TK...lol...

Either way - I'm building very loosely on such a notion - and thus why I love the blue thai-influenced Digi line and all her expressions. I truly think I can lock in all that is "OG", in a completely different package.



dank.Frank

LOL there are too many fables for OG and its siblings( Diesel, Chem, so on)

I have read the Chemdawg 101 thread before but I soon realized, what is the point? I'll never really know what parentals made up the cross, so why bother searching endlessly to find out?

I think it comes down to there are hidden gems to be found, wether it be an accident or on purpose. Obviously tho, when its intentional, the offspring are usually much more stable.

And everyone loves to know who their parents are.... lol

EDIT: re-read your post again and realized I kinda blew off your whole point of how you plan to bring the next "OG" to the table. haha bro I that sounds awesome. I think you could pull that off. Im no strain expert, not even fucking close. Ive probably never seen anything close to real "OG" in my life. But I think people kinda get "OG" and "KUSH" mixed up anyway because there is "OG KUSH". Im not saying you have it mixed up at all, lol but my point was since im growing out the BKGK Bx1 AND the CB x DB Bx1. I know the fathers are all different but LOOSELY they have the same genes, and I can see the "kush" in these lines. And I only have 1 pheno of each going LOL.

seeing Lester and his structure, I can literally envision what you are thinking here. LOL its like I had an ephiphany or something after that last bong rip. THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME.

[B.E.D]

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[dank.frank]

Looking KILLER B.E.D. - such pretty girls!

No kush in the Carolina Blue x Digi Bx1 - actually. If you ARE finding a more indica dominant plant - it's going to be a more latent Sour Bubble expression - and well, Sour Bubble isn't technically "kush" -

OG I remember was much more headie - a sativa dominant hybrid. Like 70/30 - it wasn't what I'd call "kush" by any means - and we all know that it is just given the moniker...

Over this next year, if you look @ the 2013 plan list - I figure out, what I call the "origin OG's" - TK, Legend, Ghost - bring to a filial generation via the pairing to the White. Using something such as her in an S1 manner will allow me to sort a bunch of females, with a plant I know what she brings to the table - all the little nuances and flare will be attributes from the OG side of the equation. I have no plan to breed with any of those S1 type offspring - or to even keep one around as a clone, in reality. They are just a window...and a bit of a cheat at that...I won't lie.

I do have permission to utilize I-95 genetics in breeding. That is MoneyMike's TK x (Legend x Stardawg Ix2)...that alone is a game changer. The ability to pull male material from the I-95 gene pool is drool inducing.



dank.Frank

[abirdintheair]

its very surprising to me how well the SB shows through in the bluebubble crosses, even being dom over casey.

I95, hmm, sign me up for that, $ is a cool cat.

[B.E.D]

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[soursmoker]

Originally Posted by dank.frank

Looking KILLER B.E.D. - such pretty girls!

No kush in the Carolina Blue x Digi Bx1 - actually. If you ARE finding a more indica dominant plant - it's going to be a more latent Sour Bubble expression - and well, Sour Bubble isn't technically "kush" -

OG I remember was much more headie - a sativa dominant hybrid. Like 70/30 - it wasn't what I'd call "kush" by any means - and we all know that it is just given the moniker...

Over this next year, if you look @ the 2013 plan list - I figure out, what I call the "origin OG's" - TK, Legend, Ghost - bring to a filial generation via the pairing to the White. Using something such as her in an S1 manner will allow me to sort a bunch of females, with a plant I know what she brings to the table - all the little nuances and flare will be attributes from the OG side of the equation. I have no plan to breed with any of those S1 type offspring - or to even keep one around as a clone, in reality. They are just a window...and a bit of a cheat at that...I won't lie.

I do have permission to utilize I-95 genetics in breeding. That is MoneyMike's TK x (Legend x Stardawg Ix2)...that alone is a game changer. The ability to pull male material from the I-95 gene pool is drool inducing.



dank.Frank

now that I think of it, first off, im not one to say if something looks "KUSHY" or not. AND its far too early in flowering for me to make too many judgements. But enough about that, this thread is about STANK BROS future!

As far as finding out what the Origin OG's can bring to the table, I love what you are doing there! Its an excellent idea.

And the I-95.... you gotta let me get my hands on some of that when the time comes haha. That I-95 is rediculous. And it makes it 100x cooler, knowing what I-95 is in real life. True East Coast strain.


EDIT: I have a feeling, while sorting through the Origin OGs crossed to the The White you are going to find something special that you won't want to give up. Just because you said you dont plan on keeping them around, something special is gonna show up! haha

[abirdintheair]

is the LouisXIII OG cut considered an original?