[FOE20]

Aloha Sagar friends and family...
Myself and ABN are working hard to create and reproduce/stock Sagarmatha with both new and old blood...
Atm its just a matter of making sure were happy with what to start with...this on its own will take a bit of time as both Tony and I have desires for certain lines to be rediscovered..and new lines to be well stabilized..But were def working on this and will have more on that very soon..
My main impression of Sagar is still mainly Yumbolt, M/ATF, Slyder, BBerry, Flow and NL#9...But I also know these lines the best so its really where I can start and be rather confident about producing the qualities of the original lines...
Anyway hope to get Sagar pumping again and Tony like any other cat is just tryin to enjoy life and life sometime likes to test us and being were both driven for the same goals its a strange rather just happened relationship...
1 thing about ABN is were not Normal..heh...What I'm doing is more based on creating and restocking MED quality varieties..
Tony will be exclusive home for any ABN work as we will be the MED-CoOp Part of Sagar and more working to help folk under stand which will be best for their physical issues..Sagar being a place where both MED and commercial folk can find the avail varieties..
But ABN will always gift and donate to needy folk who can't afford to help themselves..at the same time we understand that Sagar is a Co and needs to be run as one..Which as said will be Tonys baby as it always has been...

hey brutha Tony...hope your doing well and seems were both having about the same luck with certain topics so keep your head in the stars and your feet in the earth...
..stay kewl we'll be chatin soon...

Far as the History of Sagarmatha, I have the utmost respect for the Older Lines that All the best breeders used...this includes in my expireinces breeders like Nevil, DjShort, Tony, BreederSteve, Gruru, Dman, HeathRobinson, Fet, Pacific, clips, ndnguy, etc...
and even modern day fold like...
Bodhi, Jeffman, motarebel, OutlawGrower, etc....

I have allot more respect for the varieties than I do for the scene or breeders overall as I feel all were doing is our best to make our own lives more enjoyable thru this wonderful Plant...
But I def have massive amounts of respect for the Work that has been done and have tried to explore as much as possible in my time...


Quote taken from a prev statement..

First must say I have the utmost respect for Dj Short as a man and a breeder of superior cannabis genetics. second Dj and i had an arrangement in which he dropped out of because Sagarmatha could not do the volume of sales Dj needed to pay his bills. after doing months of work in our NL greenhouses isolating individuals for breeding stock with 3 of his strains, Sagarmatha was not going to stop with the program. alot of time money and energy went in to the project to get positive results. Dj left Sagarmatha and cut a deal with Henk from Dutch Passion where i heard he was not treated very well. then i heard Dj went to Switzerland were he was also dissed. it was a real shame sales were not higher or that Dj did not give the project time enought to fruit. we both seemed to like and respect each other or we would have never worked together in the first place. i wish Dj all the best and if this is not a condensed version of our history than please set me straight. time has a way of blurring the truth and there is almost always more than one side to the truth. respectfully tony
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Tony will go into any details about past Sagar work and history as I try and work new lines for the start of a new groove for Sagars offerings..
I gata give Tony props for mentioning the past and laying it on the table for others to understand how things are or have been for allot of the older Seed co's..I truly and highly respect allot of the work thats been done with many lines by many folk both known and unknown..I cme at this only as a passionate Cannabis fanatic and I hope it shows in the work as it evolves...
I'm offering hybrids and some work thats still in test phase now thru SBay and ABN server fund so any interest is appreciated..I'm usually around to help in any way I can so any questions just ask...
Tony likes to call me Mick but either way its me...
Even still talking the new and reading Tony's enthusiasm and hope in Our/my work is really just such a pleasure to be involved with...just blows my mind to say the least...anyway..
I'll be back thru to lay out some of the new ideas for Sagar lines and what will be avail hopefully sooner than Later...
Lets hope for a wonderful and exotic 2013!...
FOE20

Greetings everyone,

Mick and his work may be the new horizon for Sagarmatha seeds. He has given me the strength and inspiration to continue on this path of cannabis proliferation. the quality and integrity of his breeding program is impeccable. this new blood will flow in Sagarmatha's viens and provide a healthy future for us and Mick aswell. please wish us good luck with our projects and in early spring 2013 some examples should be on the market. glad to hear about colorado and washington cant wait for the other 48 to jump on board. peace and all that. and thanks for all of your responses and imput helping us move forward.

peace

tony

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[bodhiseeds]

super amazing!

what an awesome combination of green thumbs..

you guys will make the big mama proud..

blessings on your projects..

cant wait to see what you pull out of the magic hat.....

[FOE20]

Much love bruthas Bodhi and Bohemp.....
This is a interesting situation right here....I have work from both you gentz...and let me say I will keep the Integrity and Work exclusive to ABN and Sagarmatha but it will be work that Ive done from scratch mainly...
I will not be working Bodhi's or Bohemps or any other breeder direct Work for use in any way...
That work or those grows I do for those folk or to explore those lines is only for the need for MED quality based cultivars and the Show of appreciation for their work over all...
Only if they asked or really wanted me to would I ever consider releasing work based on theirs...
This in no way says the work is not worthy as I run them and love them All...But I would give them the work if so for them to rel under their own flags..
This is just my way of being faithful to both the Lines first most and the prev work done by the prior "Canna Lover/Seedsman"...(seedsman is not the Seed Co..its what any person that specializes in breeding is called..A "breeder" is a term...a Seedsman is a lifestyle..)
But if they did or I did work any hybs or direct F-gens of lets say Bodhi';s Hindu or Bohemos OTM lines...I would only give them back to these fellaz personally...or list them under their wings...Not under Sagars....I hope that makes sense and any thoughts on this is welcome to me...
Bodhi or Bohemp if they were to ask I would be proud to help and keep prod the Heirloom lines we seem to cherish..
Theres actually quite a few in my list of dedicated seedsman..with the likes of...
ndnguy, Purcell , Percivall?, Kaya ,OutlawGrower, motarebel, Jeffman, Bannan, Clips, Pacific, Reef, etc, etc....
If I do rel any breeds associated it will be by hybrid only and most likely a new selection all together...But the lines will still be noted and the process all laid out giving full credit where its due..
Reason being I collect seed...I collect allot of seed...My personal stock collection is needless to say...extensive...But if i were to work certain lines it would take the release of the orig maker before I could prod it for the public in any way...
Example being Bodhi's Hindu..already done by Bodhi..solid profound work...
Bohemps OTM..done and done...excellent work...
Purcells BlueSat v2.2 + Flo,,,...dedicated!....
So thats just a simple view of how I feel it has to be...But their wpork even tho IMO highly desirable is still all their work..And out of respect I would never rel or offer them under Sagar of ABN unless given permission...And even if I did its usually for free and gifts for MED needing folk...Not croppers or hard core canna fans chasing heirlooms whick i understand as well being a Addict of Variety myself..
Personally I don't like to mix business and pleasure...So this is where I stand as I do all this for the Pleasure and Love for Cannabis Plants...I highly respect the plants and in turn the Gents who went out of their way to continue or offer those lines to the the public again out of the same love/passion...This will relate in a lager way soon when I do go into detail of any work being done with DJ's lines...This will be a tricky groove for anyone as His work is highly respected In my realm, yet has its dark horses..
I will not be rel any pure DJ BBerry Lines...really before certain lines are even considered Tony and DJ will have to reach a common ground...Otherwise the best or most I will do is rel or give folks access to rather mixed Blue Hybrid lines at best....
This doesn't mean I feel DJ's Blues are less worthy now, but really still highly desired as they always have been..this means I have no choice as its the way it must be to keep it civil and Ethical...
I do have a strong goal for DJ tho....My goal is to be able to make a BBerry Growing Guide...
Which will not only make BBerry more understandable but also in turn being it back to its full Expression, True Form and proper Blues...
Im doing this out of the love for BBerry mainly and the respect for the work DJ has done and to this day is prob the most impacting "Sativa" based varieties Ive encountered in my life...This is my karmic gift back to DJ for what he has gifted to all of us thru his own work and love..
I could go on for days about it really...but I'll spare you folks all that..heh...
I wil be making a Blue Pool line that Sagar will have avail tho...
This Blue Pool will be unlike any other Blue Line ever created...
it will hold Blues phenoms and varieties that will blow the Blue mind of any Blue fanatic..
This is the only way I know how to approach the situation with Blues atm...

To re-cap tho....I don't really believe in breeders....
sounds odd but I believe in Cannabis...and by that I hope to bring a whole new view of Cannabis and how we handle it from Seed to Full Maturation...
I am AB-Normal and very Abnormal in my ways...
Tony has inspired me in his own work and passion only to it come back to him thru Karma and now our Karma will mesh and hope it will bring a strong new vibe to the scene...
We won;t be making up new names...We will be giving full disclosure on Line..parents and offspring..
We will give grow assistance and general Growing outlines based on the varieties and helping the grower to reach full maturation and proper expression...
This is allot of this is already done and almost in gear....All we need to do is open the door...Well that bout it for now and can only hope its all well received and its a worthy rep of the classics we'll be trying to bring back to life and the new blood we'll be pumping thru it all....Keep rollin
FOE20

[RespectGreen]

Very excited to see what comes of this

There's a really good bubbleberry clone around my scene

[greekgardner]

great news brother Foe,tony and you will make a great team,good luck and god bless...........

[Seismic]

Best of luck FOE. Will be patiently waiting to check out the M/ATF as it progresses. Take care.

[legalizeDK]

best of luck to you. will be great

Congrats bro, on the move up, it seems. Out of my league, lol. Good luck and peace and karma with your adventure. Seems as if you found the right guy to hook up with, its hard not to be envious. You hooked up with Tony and are goin great guns, I hooked up with LS and all he's doin is keepin up with his morphine, if I had only known. Keep up the good work Foeman, you may be the grower with the most documented strains I have ever seen and that goes for the big boys, you show all your work, not just what you might be selling like other gents. Not to infer ANY sort of selling, hypothetically, just making an observation. This documentation is what puts you above the rest, IMO

[FOE20]

Gratzi bruthas...

Respect...I'd be down...Ive got a few beans of BBerry...actually not only a Sagar ver but "another" or 2...really bout the time that happened BubbleBerry was the first close Blue hyb avail...beside like Swt which was close after I 'd think...but what trips me out is Vic had a BubbleBerry to...so if it was Euro than how Cancan land?.....was interesting times back then..lots happenind we dont know about as well..and I love it all...

much lov Greekgardner.....just hope we can do it right...

Seismic ...danke and me to..Im working a new ver of what were callin the ATF as its made in America but Im using a old Alaskan Kodiak to start...just feelin out new lines for it but its look quite good so far...big Alaskan and dank is the goal...

thank ya Legalize

yea Bob I know a few like that and keep them at a distance from me..heh...cant let a ship go down cause of a few rotten planks...we can keep ya busy if ya want man...your in a great local and should be takin advantage of that to start...we'll talk soon bradda...

First I wana say to any Sagar fan folk who ar einto the newer lines as Im not sure whats going to happen but any worthy line will be continued if possible..
I believe Tony is getting close to having another GH avail and thats really the biggest goal atm cause it will help him propagate the Euro work...
Which is teh point as were talkin on a 2 region Company..
But this is taking its own path to in a way...Tony and I have been talking about a partnership where theres 2 locals to Sagars, 1 being his home in the Netherlands and the other being My home in the States..
The idea is to bring a new lineup and View to Sagar but at the same time preserve its Original standards..
ABN and myself will be working lines from the States we feel are most worthy for MED, and above average Social, quality genetics..
Tony will still be working original Sagar lines in his home country and Fems will still be avail and all...
All that us happening is Sagarmatha is Expanding and also updating/cleaning up its Varieties..
Tony has a view he used to have about quality and letting the work speak for itself and now a days its such a competitive market its hard to get a foot in the door at all..
But Sagarmatha has been a staple company from the get go and had some great work and still has that passion..
So hope to really open up some new lines for Tony and lookin forward to seeing the old lines come back to a level of quality they always have been known for...