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Old 10-29-2016, 07:40 PM #11
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I have 1157 hours on one matrix ballast it's still going strong.
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Old 10-29-2016, 08:04 PM #12
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I think the "American Made" is actually "American's sent the specifications to a chinese mass producer"......... Not trying for a buzz kill!! I remember noticing that little detail (semantics you know) on their website. Orange was all wrong!!!

Don't think you'll find a general application e-ballast sold on the horti market that is made in the USA. Breaks my heart really. I have read good reviews on these and I would encourage you to do a lot of research before you buy. My thoughts are the best warranty available from a well known brand should be a strong consideration.

Edit and self correction!!! Some times my mind fails me! LOL!!! These are made in Japan! Much better usually than China for sure. My bad! If I wasn't a CMH freak, just the made in Japan factor would get my vote!



At any rate, best regards and good growing to you!

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All solis tek products are made in China , owners of solis tek are Chinese , there stuff is tested here , they have a metal storage unit in there warehouse plug them into to see if the work ...

Ballasts are ok , bulbs are terrible 3 out of 6 never worked out of box , there 10k lasted 2 weeks
There new stuff looks cool , but seems costly compared to what's available
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Old 10-30-2016, 10:22 PM #13
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Well then give me some Chinese ballast lol. I have had the best luck with these ballast over other brands.
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Old 10-31-2016, 06:07 PM #14
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All solis tek products are made in China , owners of solis tek are Chinese , there stuff is tested here , they have a metal storage unit in there warehouse plug them into to see if the work ...

Ballasts are ok , bulbs are terrible 3 out of 6 never worked out of box , there 10k lasted 2 weeks
There new stuff looks cool , but seems costly compared to what's available
Well, at least the presentation matched the content. Since the ignorance spouted has zero to do with the topic or the reliability of any products there is no real way to respond other that with distaste.

Many poor and substandard units have been tested, none have ever had a fifty percent failure rate, none, ever. Ignorance has always been the enemy. This seems a step past ignorance and is actual bigotry promoted with lies.

I am here for the information trading and learning, posts of misinformation based on personal hate of other cultures make me uncomfortable.
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Old 10-31-2016, 06:20 PM #15
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I have some 1st generation Matrix ,been running like a champ for a couple of years.I also have the 2nd generation ones (double ended).1 failed out of 6 brand new in the box.It would not fire up.Was told by a vendor that these new ones are made in a different factory where their QA is not top notch thus the failure rate( i think about 30℅).
The new Vanquish ballasts are made in the old solistek factory,but AFAIK they dont have the digital timers yet.

So Basically i would stay away from them.
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Old 10-31-2016, 07:24 PM #16
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Well, at least the presentation matched the content. Since the ignorance spouted has zero to do with the topic or the reliability of any products there is no real way to respond other that with distaste.

Many poor and substandard units have been tested, none have ever had a fifty percent failure rate, none, ever. Ignorance has always been the enemy. This seems a step past ignorance and is actual bigotry promoted with lies.

I am here for the information trading and learning, posts of misinformation based on personal hate of other cultures make me uncomfortable.
The guy gave his personal experience. Not his fault if the product was sub standard. How on earth do you manage to find hate in that post?
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Old 11-02-2016, 12:48 PM #17
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the Chinese make inferior products... their products suck... post a list of superior products with the 'made in china' logo... it will be a very short list...

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Old 11-02-2016, 02:44 PM #18
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the Chinese make inferior products... their products suck... post a list of superior products with the 'made in china' logo... it will be a very short list...

its not hate... just the truth...
It is not the fact that the Chinese make inferior products, but the fact that the Chinese make products cheaply because that is what consumers want to pay for.

I have a couple Solistek ballasts running atm. I would say they are going on 3 years and they haven't been touched once.
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Old 11-02-2016, 02:54 PM #19
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It is not the fact that the Chinese make inferior products, but the fact that the Chinese make products cheaply because that is what consumers want to pay for.

I have a couple Solistek ballasts running atm. I would say they are going on 3 years and they haven't been touched once.
the products they make ...SUCK.. if u wish to say they are cheaply made...ok... but the bottom line is they suck..

and its the workers... u can go to Vietnam, where wages are even lower the china, and the same product will be built better...using the 'exact' same components...
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:08 PM #20
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the products they make ...SUCK.. if u wish to say they are cheaply made...ok... but the bottom line is they suck..

and its the workers... u can go to Vietnam, where wages are even lower the china, and the same product will be built better...using the 'exact' same components...

Bullshit. They make good products and they make crappy products.

It's borderline insane to think that everything that comes out of china is shit. Just like it would be borderline insane to think that everything that comes out of America is high quality.
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