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OldSkoolKlein · 12-23-2012, 10:28 AM

This was from a tweet sent by Wil Anderson.

https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/pro...257ABF00134E57

Submissions close 15 FEB 2013.

So any interested parties who know what they're on about (counts me out) have a bit of time to get over Xmas/New Year and start hitting the keyboards.

I wonder how much of the info used in various states in the U.S. that helped them in their legalisation fights would be applicable here?

Has anyone had any dealings with the govt in this sort of thing (not to do with pot necessarily) that makes them take more notice of certain things than others? Like, 'say this sort of stuff, in this way, and they will take you more seriously' as opposed to a whole bunch of stoners saying 'Awwww come on, blah blah'.

Anyone out there willing to be a devils advocate to refine the process before submissions are made?

There are a list of things they want to look at in the inquiry that is listed at the link above. Under the SUBMISSIONS heading, there is a guide on how to make submissions. I think that we need to look at that & base our arguments on that template.

We need to list the positives first, then the devil's advocates come in and try to destroy the points. Then they are refined, so the opposition is weakened/made to look foolish. But whatever we say on either side (ESPECIALLY for the pro-medical side) has to be backed up. References, quotes from law enforcement, experience from the States that shows things got better for it being legalised.

One thing that comes to mind is costs. Cost of enforcement (with prohibition) vs costs with regulation. Money talks in them places.

I hope some people see this and something can get done. Even if you aren't in N.S.W., or Australia for that matter, any help will be appreciated.

Apologies if this reads a little all over the shop, but I'm here on TOR, and have to toggle with normal window to look at the webpage to try and write shit here. In my uni days, this post would be a rough 1st draft (out of 3-4 drafts). Some days I much rather handwrite posts b4 typing, but I only have so much time on this earth like the rest of humanity...

Ok, I shall be off like a bucket of prawns in the sun now.

MERRY XMAS to all!

OldSkoolKlein.

wallywombat · 01-03-2013, 11:02 AM

im liking this

KITCHA · 01-15-2013, 11:08 AM

Bump, hope we have some peeps putting forward some quality responses for this might try pen something together. This is our chance!

vostok · 01-15-2013, 11:46 PM

Oz could just copy the 'Frisco way' of doing it, with dispensaries and license ..?

OldSkoolKlein · 01-30-2013, 11:21 AM

Bumping this due to a minor flurry of interest in the last couple of days.

Submissions close 15th Feb.

01-30-2013, 11:32 AM

Gday mate looks bloody good. How much interest has there been?

b00m · 01-30-2013, 01:06 PM

Great thread OSK

Wish I could put something together but it would be laughed at by the powers that be who would read it, hopefully some aussies out there are better equipped with their vocabulary and can pen something down to help out with this amazing opportunity

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OldSkoolKlein Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Where the wheels fell off. Posts: 143	Medical Marijuana submissions for NSW This was from a tweet sent by Wil Anderson. https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/pro...257ABF00134E57 Submissions close 15 FEB 2013. So any interested parties who know what they're on about (counts me out) have a bit of time to get over Xmas/New Year and start hitting the keyboards. I wonder how much of the info used in various states in the U.S. that helped them in their legalisation fights would be applicable here? Has anyone had any dealings with the govt in this sort of thing (not to do with pot necessarily) that makes them take more notice of certain things than others? Like, 'say this sort of stuff, in this way, and they will take you more seriously' as opposed to a whole bunch of stoners saying 'Awwww come on, blah blah'. Anyone out there willing to be a devils advocate to refine the process before submissions are made? There are a list of things they want to look at in the inquiry that is listed at the link above. Under the SUBMISSIONS heading, there is a guide on how to make submissions. I think that we need to look at that & base our arguments on that template. We need to list the positives first, then the devil's advocates come in and try to destroy the points. Then they are refined, so the opposition is weakened/made to look foolish. But whatever we say on either side (ESPECIALLY for the pro-medical side) has to be backed up. References, quotes from law enforcement, experience from the States that shows things got better for it being legalised. One thing that comes to mind is costs. Cost of enforcement (with prohibition) vs costs with regulation. Money talks in them places. I hope some people see this and something can get done. Even if you aren't in N.S.W., or Australia for that matter, any help will be appreciated. Apologies if this reads a little all over the shop, but I'm here on TOR, and have to toggle with normal window to look at the webpage to try and write shit here. In my uni days, this post would be a rough 1st draft (out of 3-4 drafts). Some days I much rather handwrite posts b4 typing, but I only have so much time on this earth like the rest of humanity... Ok, I shall be off like a bucket of prawns in the sun now. MERRY XMAS to all! OldSkoolKlein. __________________ A cynic is an idealist with impossibly high standards. "You know you're getting old when your blood type is discontinued." Phyllis Diller 1917-2012
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KITCHA Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 723	Bump, hope we have some peeps putting forward some quality responses for this might try pen something together. This is our chance! __________________ From little things big things grow... -Keeper Seeds-
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vostok Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Far East Posts: 1,513	Oz could just copy the 'Frisco way' of doing it, with dispensaries and license ..?
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OldSkoolKlein Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Where the wheels fell off. Posts: 143	Bumping this due to a minor flurry of interest in the last couple of days. Submissions close 15th Feb. __________________ A cynic is an idealist with impossibly high standards. "You know you're getting old when your blood type is discontinued." Phyllis Diller 1917-2012
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b00m ~No Guts~ ~No Glory~ Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ~On the Bright Side Of the Dark Side~ Posts: 11,837	Great thread OSK Wish I could put something together but it would be laughed at by the powers that be who would read it, hopefully some aussies out there are better equipped with their vocabulary and can pen something down to help out with this amazing opportunity __________________ Please read the ICMag Posting Guidelines/Terms Of Use Don't forget to place your Vote and your Nomination in ICMag's Photo of the Month How to insert images and video and add attachments to your posts!
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