[Iffy]

Originally Posted by vertigo0007

Do you have a link to some proof of this?

https://www.plantphysiology.org/content/133/3/1367.short

[Iffy]

Originally Posted by TheArchitect

Sure there is, it works, and it's way cheaper. I don't spray my plants with anything past week 1 flower anyway, but I end salicylic acid foliars before flower.

Week 1 flower my plants get a spray of vitazyme with jh biotech's glycine chelated calcium.

Salicylic Acid reduces trich growth & terpine production.

https://www.plantphysiology.org/content/133/3/1367.short

[Iffy]

Hi Folks,
My interest in Chitosan is not as an addition to my res. I'm not sure what the benefit of that particular enzyme it produces. I want to use it in conjunction with Giberrelic & Jasmonic acid (it needs to be dissolved in an organic acid) as a foliar spray from week 2 to week 4 of flowering.

https://www.plantphysiology.org/content/133/3/1367.short

The above link leads to one of the many articles I have read on the subject of 'Stimulating Trich Production'. To mimick insect attack on the plants and kick the defense system into overdrive, thus producing more 'Frost', I plan to alloy this procedure to a regimen of regular & constant mechanical damage. In the form of nibbling the leaves with a hole punch. (Some research papers suggested a trigger lay in the saliva of the munching insect, so I clean the head of the hole punch with my mouth - why not?)
I reckon if I spray my plants with this mixture and keep attacking them with the hole punch I might see a marked increase in trich production = +++potency!
The only thing I have to determine/guess are the dilution rates of the two acids. Might just have to suck it and see!

Anyone done this before? I would love to hear from you.
I will of course share my results, if any!
Happy growing

[omera1]

Originally Posted by Iffy

Hi Folks,
My interest in Chitosan is not as an addition to my res. I'm not sure what the benefit of that particular enzyme it produces. I want to use it in conjunction with Giberrelic & Jasmonic acid (it needs to be dissolved in an organic acid) as a foliar spray from week 2 to week 4 of flowering.

https://www.plantphysiology.org/content/133/3/1367.short

The above link leads to one of the many articles I have read on the subject of 'Stimulating Trich Production'. To mimick insect attack on the plants and kick the defense system into overdrive, thus producing more 'Frost', I plan to alloy this procedure to a regimen of regular & constant mechanical damage. In the form of nibbling the leaves with a hole punch. (Some research papers suggested a trigger lay in the saliva of the munching insect, so I clean the head of the hole punch with my mouth - why not?)
I reckon if I spray my plants with this mixture and keep attacking them with the hole punch I might see a marked increase in trich production = +++potency!
The only thing I have to determine/guess are the dilution rates of the two acids. Might just have to suck it and see!

Anyone done this before? I would love to hear from you.
I will of course share my results, if any!
Happy growing

please do not use gib. its not worth it, trust me. if you want something a bit like gib, try bras. bras activates SAR also, so maybe a good addition to chito or jasmo. for me .01ppm is to much, .004 or so could be a good number to start. but i think you better avoid gib bras or all stretchers. and when you use jasmonate, you dont have to hurt the plant. thats a point why you use jasmonates, you dont have to hurt the plant but get better results as if you just do physical damage to your plant.

....and sorry, do you think you can dissolve the chito in jasmonic acid?^^ pure jasmonate it expensive as fuck, pure methyl jasmonate also. and you need such a litte amount that it is impossible to dissolve the chito in the jasmonic acid. jaz rose spray is the cheap answer, its MDHJ. you better use hcl at 0.4mol to dissolve the chito...

[shaggyballs]

Originally Posted by omera1

please do not use gib. its not worth it, trust me. if you want something a bit like gib, try bras. bras activates SAR also, so maybe a good addition to chito or jasmo. for me .01ppm is to much, .004 or so could be a good number to start. but i think you better avoid gib bras or all stretchers. and when you use jasmonate, you dont have to hurt the plant. thats a point why you use jasmonates, you dont have to hurt the plant but get better results as if you just do physical damage to your plant.

....and sorry, do you think you can dissolve the chito in jasmonic acid?^^ pure jasmonate it expensive as fuck, pure methyl jasmonate also. and you need such a litte amount that it is impossible to dissolve the chito in the jasmonic acid. jaz rose spray is the cheap answer, its MDJA. you better use hcl at 0.4mol to dissolve the chito...

I agree 100%
I could not have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!!
Andy GIBB. is bad!!!!!!!!

[CoastalSFC]

I believe insect frass is a source of chit , can anyone else confirm this?

[BubbaBear]

Originally Posted by Storm Shadow

https://www.bestchitosan.com/index_en.html

Kilo shipped from China $135 total! Panda Land has all the goodies for cheap

I was thinking about ordering some of this chitosan how did it work out for you ? Would you recommend it? Any tips on usage?

[Iffy]

Hi Peeps.
Interesting thread.
I was looking at Chitosan from a different perspective. Apparently when dissolved in an organic acid & sprayed onto the early budding crop, it mimmicks attack in some form and thereby stimulates trichome production. It has been used in conjunction with a programme of mechanical damage (ie nibbling the leaves with a tool) Both these together have in tests produced more trichs. More trichs = more VOC's = more potent product??
(Chinese 'snow crab' chit is top quality)
Anybody tried this or thinking about trying this?
Peace & happy growing

[BubbaBear]

Originally Posted by Iffy

Hi Peeps.
Interesting thread.
I was looking at Chitosan from a different perspective. Apparently when dissolved in an organic acid & sprayed onto the early budding crop, it mimmicks attack in some form and thereby stimulates trichome production. It has been used in conjunction with a programme of mechanical damage (ie nibbling the leaves with a tool) Both these together have in tests produced more trichs. More trichs = more VOC's = more potent product??
(Chinese 'snow crab' chit is top quality)
Anybody tried this or thinking about trying this?
Peace & happy growing

I use bud factor x as a mid flower foliar and it has chitosan in it. It makes you trics stack harder for sure but a few products will do that but bud factor x really makes your plants aromatics go thru the roof it cranks up the terpines like no other product. One negative effect of bud factor x and presumably chitosan used as a foliar is if used to early in flower it will rob you of yield and the plant will concentrate all its energy into growing tricromes. I have not experienced this with root feedings though but bud factor x is to expensive for me to dump in my reservoir thats why im interested in trying pure oligo chitosan.

[Iffy]

Hey BubbaBear,
I heard about Bud Factor X and why they use Chitosan I also get that too soon would definitely slow down bud 'growth'. Smaller but frostier buds.
- when do you think is the ideal time to use it?

Regards
Iffy