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iTarzan · 07-19-2015, 01:54 AM

If you are using 100% Chitosan than you are watering with 125 ppm. Is that right?

Why did you choose drench over foliar OutlawTree? I am trying to figure out a plan.

DuskrayTroubador · 07-20-2015, 01:57 AM

Insect frass has chit in it (pun intended) and I was wondering if you all think it'd be a hood idea yo order some to incorporate into my feeding for flowering?

I have outdoor plants (you can see them in the link in my signature) that I feed with Jack's water soluble ferts and I'm thinking of just adding insect frass to the water I already put Jack's in. Thoughts?

Once flowering really gets going, I don't want to be spraying anything. Too much humidity. I may start mixing aloe vera juice in with the ferts too instead of spraying.

xxxstr8edgexxx · 07-20-2015, 03:42 AM

some say 1 gram per gallon is way overkill. ive heard people applying at 1/4 gram.

have yall read this
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2866471/

iTarzan · 07-20-2015, 06:34 AM

Shakiraloba insect frass is worth ordering for it's fertilizing ability alone. Plants love it. In the real outside world insect frass is a major source of food for all plants. The chitin benefits are a plus though.

4 teaspoons of insect frass per gallon pot and then work some in later on. I also use it with earthworm castings and make a tea which is great.

superjet · 07-22-2015, 07:13 AM

well I figured I would start with a teaspoon to 5 gallons of water. the water turned a nice yellow/light green, but I didn't get but a 5 ppm rise in my water with a little drop in ph.
chitosan powder (crab shells) all organic right? is that why I'm not getting much of a reading/measurement?
are you guys getting ec/ppm readings from your chitosan powder by itself? thanks.

iTarzan · 07-23-2015, 05:05 PM

Superjet you need to weigh it. It is calculated ppm not a measured by a ppm meter ppm. Some substances don't measure properly with a ppm meter.

I am going to weigh a teaspoon and find out how many grams or milligrams you used.

Back at you later today.

superjet · 07-24-2015, 12:07 AM

thanks iTarzan, I didn't think to use weight as a measurement. I weighed it (chitosan) with a teaspoon that I use and I'm averaging around 2.7 grams. so I'm at a good 1/2 gram per gallon. does that sound about right as far as dosage? thanks again.

iTarzan · 07-24-2015, 02:10 AM

I got the same weight of 2.7 grams.

Are you watering the medium with it or using as a foliar.

If it was .5 grams in 4 liters (little more than a gallon) that would be .125 gram (125 mg) and result in 125 ppm. In a gallon that is roughly 146 ppm. The sellers of that chitosan say start with 200 ppm and work up to 800 ppm. However, I think your mix would be fine to start.

I watered in using 1 gram in 1 gallon roughly 292 ppm and then I did a foliar at .2 grams in 1 liter for 200 ppm.

The research is hard going and almost endless. LOL!

Kygiacomo!!! · 07-24-2015, 04:31 AM

regalia,frass,aloe 200x and b-52 along with vitazyme it has tricantonal and brassinosteriod in it. it is defo working bc this year i have the biggest Delahaze plants in veg that i have ever had in my life. the first 4 listed all induce SAR/ISR as u know and its having a great effect. my plants are super healthy right now. the last 3 years i have grown delahaze and none never got no taller then 6.5 foot. this year 4 out 5 are approaching 9 foot tall and still in veg,the second pic of the Dela is my smallest one and its not to small lol i jsut got back from one my plots with 2 delas check em out.

stoned-trout · 07-24-2015, 06:16 PM

this is first time I aint living near to the ocean ever !!!!!!!!!..gonna have to order some.. grew up using crab,shrimp,lobster shells in the mix along with some other oceanic goodies..now I have to buy them all...errrr .. I miss the ocean.... great thread guys...yeehaw

07-19-2015, 01:54 AM	#141
iTarzan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,404	If you are using 100% Chitosan than you are watering with 125 ppm. Is that right? Why did you choose drench over foliar OutlawTree? I am trying to figure out a plan.
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07-20-2015, 01:57 AM	#142
DuskrayTroubador Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,046	Insect frass has chit in it (pun intended) and I was wondering if you all think it'd be a hood idea yo order some to incorporate into my feeding for flowering? I have outdoor plants (you can see them in the link in my signature) that I feed with Jack's water soluble ferts and I'm thinking of just adding insect frass to the water I already put Jack's in. Thoughts? Once flowering really gets going, I don't want to be spraying anything. Too much humidity. I may start mixing aloe vera juice in with the ferts too instead of spraying. __________________ If hereafter any highly cultured, poetical nation shall lure back to their birthright, the merry May-day gods of old; and livingly enthrone them again in the now egotistical sky; on the now un- haunted hill; then be sure, exalted to Jove’s high seat, the great Sperm Whale shall lord it. — HERMAN MELVILLE, from Moby Dick
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07-20-2015, 03:42 AM	#143
xxxstr8edgexxx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,968	some say 1 gram per gallon is way overkill. ive heard people applying at 1/4 gram. have yall read this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2866471/
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07-20-2015, 06:34 AM	#144
iTarzan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,404	Shakiraloba insect frass is worth ordering for it's fertilizing ability alone. Plants love it. In the real outside world insect frass is a major source of food for all plants. The chitin benefits are a plus though. 4 teaspoons of insect frass per gallon pot and then work some in later on. I also use it with earthworm castings and make a tea which is great.
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07-22-2015, 07:13 AM	#145
superjet Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: las vegas Posts: 185	well I figured I would start with a teaspoon to 5 gallons of water. the water turned a nice yellow/light green, but I didn't get but a 5 ppm rise in my water with a little drop in ph. chitosan powder (crab shells) all organic right? is that why I'm not getting much of a reading/measurement? are you guys getting ec/ppm readings from your chitosan powder by itself? thanks.
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07-23-2015, 05:05 PM	#146
iTarzan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,404	Superjet you need to weigh it. It is calculated ppm not a measured by a ppm meter ppm. Some substances don't measure properly with a ppm meter. I am going to weigh a teaspoon and find out how many grams or milligrams you used. Back at you later today.
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07-24-2015, 12:07 AM	#147
superjet Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: las vegas Posts: 185	thanks iTarzan, I didn't think to use weight as a measurement. I weighed it (chitosan) with a teaspoon that I use and I'm averaging around 2.7 grams. so I'm at a good 1/2 gram per gallon. does that sound about right as far as dosage? thanks again.
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07-24-2015, 02:10 AM	#148
iTarzan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,404	I got the same weight of 2.7 grams. Are you watering the medium with it or using as a foliar. If it was .5 grams in 4 liters (little more than a gallon) that would be .125 gram (125 mg) and result in 125 ppm. In a gallon that is roughly 146 ppm. The sellers of that chitosan say start with 200 ppm and work up to 800 ppm. However, I think your mix would be fine to start. I watered in using 1 gram in 1 gallon roughly 292 ppm and then I did a foliar at .2 grams in 1 liter for 200 ppm. The research is hard going and almost endless. LOL!
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07-24-2015, 04:31 AM	#149
Kygiacomo!!! AppAlachiAn OutLaW Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Trap-house 37.5n Posts: 2,205	regalia,frass,aloe 200x and b-52 along with vitazyme it has tricantonal and brassinosteriod in it. it is defo working bc this year i have the biggest Delahaze plants in veg that i have ever had in my life. the first 4 listed all induce SAR/ISR as u know and its having a great effect. my plants are super healthy right now. the last 3 years i have grown delahaze and none never got no taller then 6.5 foot. this year 4 out 5 are approaching 9 foot tall and still in veg,the second pic of the Dela is my smallest one and its not to small lol i jsut got back from one my plots with 2 delas check em out.
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07-24-2015, 06:16 PM	#150
stoned-trout if it smells like fish Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: bible hill estates Posts: 8,328	this is first time I aint living near to the ocean ever !!!!!!!!!..gonna have to order some.. grew up using crab,shrimp,lobster shells in the mix along with some other oceanic goodies..now I have to buy them all...errrr .. I miss the ocean.... great thread guys...yeehaw __________________ SML..iff mi spellin and centances suk and yoo don't lyke itt too fukkin bad;/?.....I once was asked what I would say upon getting to the gates of heaven??? m/r is a visitors badge an option??? I would like a few drinks at the bar... YEEHAW....vote for real legalization not sum bullshit...free the weed or kiss my ass...you wont be getting my tax money..
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