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Old 01-02-2015, 11:51 PM #111
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I tend to use foliar for sure if I am fighting an active plant infection. Fertigate for maintenane primarily with an addition in my weekly foliar...mabe 4:1 fert:foliar. Seems to work but I admit no peer reviewed science backing me up...just my personal experiece.

I like using foliar to try to bump chlorophyll production and supply trace elements which I figure are going to most likely get blocked/tied up by P/etc.

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Is anyone familiar with Chitoclear from Iceland? They claim its the purest chitosan possible but dont list agricultural as a use. Would it be water soluble?


https://massspectrumbotanicals.com/shop/chitosan/

This mass spectrum botanicals sells it in small or large amounts, they have a ton of other bio stimulants, hormones and PGRs too more than I've seen on one site, they sell a lot of random stuff too lol. There out of stock but they sell a 95% Jasmonic acid, does anyone know how Jasmonic acid effects your plant compared to chitosan? Ive used JAZ rose spray and it makes your plants stack tricomes and terpines like chitosan does.
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Ive been looking at a product that has Colloidal Chitosan.... Would this work the same way as the Chitosan Oligosaccharide? It looks like its marketed for tree's but says it can be used on all other plants as well.

https://www.grosupply.com/en/odc-home...oidal-chitosan
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...Colloidal Chitosan.... Would this work the same way as the Chitosan Oligosaccharide?...
It's not the same and it doesn't work as well.
The latter contains usually between 1 and 10 monomers per oligomer and 20 at the most whereas colloidal chitosan, as the name implies it isn't really soluble but forms 'particulates' in solution, consist of high molecular weight polymer chains (hundreds to thousands of monomers per chain). BTW another readily soluble chitosan type consists of medium weight chains of 20 to 100 monomers. This and the oligomers are biologically more active than the cheap colloidal high MW type which you could fabricate in your kitchen using shrimp shells (cockroaches and zophobas would work too, should you be an acolyte of entomophagy), some potassium hydroxide pellets, and a cooking pot .
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Old 02-11-2015, 07:32 PM #116
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To mush for me loool
fear of kill my lil crop with yu stuff to mush dam infos in one time.
Chitosan is chemical or bio?
Safe to use ?
Did some One make à chart to use it?
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You won't kill anything with it, no worries .
Chitosan is chemically degraded chitin. Chitin is a natural product and a major part of insect exoskeletons and fungi cell walls. The 'chemical' used is usually just sodium or potassium hydroxide (aka pH up ). Chitosan oligosaccharide is further broken down to smaller pieces using different and mostly harmless methods.
That said, chitosan is VERY safe to use.

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Par préférence, prends l’oligosaccharide lactate ou du chitosan soluble à poids moléculaire moyen. Comme ça t'as pas besoin de t'embêter avec ajuster le pH. Combien t'utilise dépends un peu et je l'ai déjà écrit ci-dessus qqpart.

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Some pic on one plant with chitosan.
and same no chitosan.
Did that play on yields?
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It's not the same and it doesn't work as well.
The latter contains usually between 1 and 10 monomers per oligomer and 20 at the most whereas colloidal chitosan, as the name implies it isn't really soluble but forms 'particulates' in solution, consist of high molecular weight polymer chains (hundreds to thousands of monomers per chain). BTW another readily soluble chitosan type consists of medium weight chains of 20 to 100 monomers. This and the oligomers are biologically more active than the cheap colloidal high MW type which you could fabricate in your kitchen using shrimp shells (cockroaches and zophobas would work too, should you be an acolyte of entomophagy), some potassium hydroxide pellets, and a cooking pot .
Gonna brew me a cockroach tea, we got a lot of them there critters in the D. none at my house but in the city, oh boy.
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Anyway OO your always so en-lighting. who knew you could grow good cannabis with cockroaches, and they may even help increase THC.
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Hey Shaggy, how about Cock Juice?..... I makes your plants lady parts stinky and wet lol.

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