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Old 03-13-2013, 05:20 AM #31
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nice to see this side x side being done SS

ive been using OF for 3 yrs since my 1st grow, cut it 3 or 4 to 1 w/perite
and it rocks! that last few months Ive tarted adding 25% promix bx to it.
undecided if its worth it at this point but I think theres benefit in using it.
I've thought about the promix bx but in the end decided that granular mykos alone probably provide the same benefit as mixing in mykologically active soil.

You feel even the Ocean Forest needs more Perlite? Personally I had thought of adding vermiculite, if anything.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:52 AM #32
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3 Way SbS, Amazon Bloom, Black Gold, and Ocean Forest Soils

Looking good. Interesting that black gold is the slowest....
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Looking good. Interesting that black gold is the slowest....
Not sure what exactly could be the cause of this, except perhaps that Black Gold carries the lowest nutrient level of the three soils.
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Well it's been almost 10 years since I used it so I'm guessing it's changed a little bit but I remember it being similar to ffof. Always seemed like it was a dark rich soil similar to the OF.....
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Well it's been almost 10 years since I used it so I'm guessing it's changed a little bit but I remember it being similar to ffof. Always seemed like it was a dark rich soil similar to the OF.....
The current mix for Black Gold is very simplistic, out of curiousity, could you be referring to Black Jack soil? I've used Black Jack in the remote past, can't find it anymore though, and it had a similar composition to Ocean Forest.

Both Ocean Forest and Amazon Bloom include a variety of organic fertilizer sources, while Black Gold only uses earthworm castings, at least in today's formula.
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Now that you mention it, i think black gold made another soil that was for exotic plants or something and I think that might have been what I used. I'm gonna check it out online
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I've thought about the promix bx but in the end decided that granular mykos alone probably provide the same benefit as mixing in mykologically active soil.

You feel even the Ocean Forest needs more Perlite? Personally I had thought of adding vermiculite, if anything.
straight OF just seems to heavy to me.
when I repot from 16oz cup to 1 gallon bags or going from 1gal to 3 gallon bags I see very aggressive growth with roots popping out the drain holes in 2-3 days.
I prefer a more airy soil
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straight OF just seems to heavy to me.
when I repot from 16oz cup to 1 gallon bags or going from 1gal to 3 gallon bags I see very aggressive growth with roots popping out the drain holes in 2-3 days.
I prefer a more airy soil
How is it physically possible for bottom end roots after 3 days transition from 16oz to 1g? Just talking about seeing taproots reaching? I usually don't transplant without serious root mass, because it greatly lowers the chance of the soil breaking apart and seriously damaging my plant's root structure. A lighter substrate will generally give roots less to stand in their way, but also less to nourish and sustain them, when using your amended ocean forest, how long are you comfortable giving them only water?
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Some selective topping has evened out our candidates, and now we're just over a week from flowering them, i'll add current pics to this post later tonight after the wife and I figure out dinner.
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+1 for fox farm being to Heavy ..Idk if they changed the formula but a few yrs ago it was pretty light and airy ..still heavy tho ..after my last run ..I practically had mud leftover ..I like my soil airy so 30% perlite is a must for me ..maybe 40% depending on how big the plant might get and how many waterings it's gonna get ..
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