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shg_man · 03-22-2006, 05:55 AM

hey there cannabis world!! I was wondering if anyone out there has an idea what the hell is wrong with these girls!! Its driving me absolutly nuts!! A quick background on conditions is as follows.. these are in veg.. 3 wks old.. I use r. o. water as my tap water is very hard (500-700ppm) does any else use r o water? i keep my ph around 6.6 and run the nutrients at around 6oo ppm till flowering. i use cal max around 3 times a cycle.temps are good for veg i use dnf nutrients.this is really driving me up the wall so any help would be greatly thanked. Maybe the great mynamestich has an idea?

10k · 03-22-2006, 09:56 AM

How could anyone tell you whats wrong without you giving a picture, or even a written description of what the girls are looking like ?

shg_man · 03-22-2006, 01:05 PM

hey the pics are in the gallery!!

glasspackedbowl · 03-22-2006, 01:14 PM

look like some sort of defiency. Is it soil or hydro? I guessing soil because If the Ph u gave. Ph them to 6.0 they will like that. To me I think it might be a mag problem. Try using a salt leach and maybe 2 crystals of epson salt.

HempKat · 03-22-2006, 01:27 PM

Well I'm a soil guy so I could be wrong but you are describing a hydro setup. A ph of 6.6 is spot on for soil but too high for hydro. I believe hydro is supposed to be in the 5.5 range? This very well could cause a nute lock out and that would show up like a deficiency or multiple deficiencies.

shg_man · 03-22-2006, 02:17 PM

i am in soilless (promix) i don't know if its a mag problem.. i keep up on it with the cal max because the r.o. water is devoid of any micro newts. i have a tds pen so i know what concentration of newts i am running.. its around 500-700 in veg and then up to 900-1100 in full bloom.. Whats a salt leach? Thought you wanted to get the salts out?

thanks for all the feed back!!

ogrefugee · 03-22-2006, 05:00 PM

i don't think it is a mag def since your ph is high (mag is best absorbed in a soilless @ 5.8+). I think it is a Phossphorus def. Phosphorus gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 6.0-8.5. This makes sense because your ph is higher.

try to aim for a ph of 5.8-6.0 (sigh, this is why i never grow soilless, it always seems to be more prone to nute lockouts than soil or hydro...)

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shg_man · 03-22-2006, 10:30 PM

hey thanks orge... so thats 2 pps that think should lower my ph. Anyone else? I've never herd of a phoss def in veg b4 but i am listening.. Does any else use r.o. water? How do they fair with it and what newts are they running?

Thanks for all the great advice guys!!!

HempKat · 03-23-2006, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by shg_man

i am in soilless (promix) i don't know if its a mag problem.. i keep up on it with the cal max because the r.o. water is devoid of any micro newts. i have a tds pen so i know what concentration of newts i am running.. its around 500-700 in veg and then up to 900-1100 in full bloom.. Whats a salt leach? Thought you wanted to get the salts out?

thanks for all the feed back!!

That's what a salt leech does, it helps you get the salts out. Leeching means to draw out.

shg_man · 03-23-2006, 10:00 AM

thats what i thought you ment kempkat but i didn't know if there was so new fandgle way of leaching plants

thanks

03-22-2006, 05:55 AM	#1
shg_man New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5	What is wrong with me!! hey there cannabis world!! I was wondering if anyone out there has an idea what the hell is wrong with these girls!! Its driving me absolutly nuts!! A quick background on conditions is as follows.. these are in veg.. 3 wks old.. I use r. o. water as my tap water is very hard (500-700ppm) does any else use r o water? i keep my ph around 6.6 and run the nutrients at around 6oo ppm till flowering. i use cal max around 3 times a cycle.temps are good for veg i use dnf nutrients.this is really driving me up the wall so any help would be greatly thanked. Maybe the great mynamestich has an idea?
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glasspackedbowl Medical Test grower. Inquire within... Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cloud City Posts: 2,080	look like some sort of defiency. Is it soil or hydro? I guessing soil because If the Ph u gave. Ph them to 6.0 they will like that. To me I think it might be a mag problem. Try using a salt leach and maybe 2 crystals of epson salt. __________________ Campolina (cappaccino X Annac) Akita (stankonia x Annac) These are available from seedbay! Stankonia is my Spicy strain. Get them while there there to get! BIG Thanks ro Ronley for donating them! 215/sb420 Compliant Medical patient! R.I.P. Daltron he has passed away! space! Breeding for Beginners Hill Temple Indica ...... Grat3fulh3ad's G13xSDv3 ..... FemaleSeeds White Widow .... Stankonia CP and White Rhino
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03-22-2006, 01:27 PM	#5
HempKat Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 3rd Rock From The Sun Posts: 6,355	Well I'm a soil guy so I could be wrong but you are describing a hydro setup. A ph of 6.6 is spot on for soil but too high for hydro. I believe hydro is supposed to be in the 5.5 range? This very well could cause a nute lock out and that would show up like a deficiency or multiple deficiencies. Last edited by HempKat; 03-22-2006 at 01:29 PM..
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03-22-2006, 05:00 PM	#7
ogrefugee Official Tree Taster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: somewhere in this place Posts: 1,079	i don't think it is a mag def since your ph is high (mag is best absorbed in a soilless @ 5.8+). I think it is a Phossphorus def. Phosphorus gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 6.0-8.5. This makes sense because your ph is higher. try to aim for a ph of 5.8-6.0 (sigh, this is why i never grow soilless, it always seems to be more prone to nute lockouts than soil or hydro...) AND READ THIS NOW! https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688 __________________ TEACH Male/Female Sexing Guide (Great pictures) Re-veg Guide Wanna build a 4kw capable controller? (W. Pics) Ultra-cheap, very effective simple cloner (With Pics) OGRE's Simple Dryer Box Tutorial (Complete w/ Pics)
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03-22-2006, 09:56 AM	#2
10k burnt out og'er Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: cyber space Posts: 1,644	How could anyone tell you whats wrong without you giving a picture, or even a written description of what the girls are looking like ?
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03-22-2006, 01:05 PM	#3
shg_man New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5	hey the pics are in the gallery!!
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03-22-2006, 02:17 PM	#6
shg_man New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5	i am in soilless (promix) i don't know if its a mag problem.. i keep up on it with the cal max because the r.o. water is devoid of any micro newts. i have a tds pen so i know what concentration of newts i am running.. its around 500-700 in veg and then up to 900-1100 in full bloom.. Whats a salt leach? Thought you wanted to get the salts out? thanks for all the feed back!!
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03-22-2006, 10:30 PM	#8
shg_man New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5	hey thanks orge... so thats 2 pps that think should lower my ph. Anyone else? I've never herd of a phoss def in veg b4 but i am listening.. Does any else use r.o. water? How do they fair with it and what newts are they running? Thanks for all the great advice guys!!!
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03-23-2006, 10:00 AM	#10
shg_man New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5	thats what i thought you ment kempkat but i didn't know if there was so new fandgle way of leaching plants thanks
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