[Reporter Joe]

What inof did O.G. have about their clients (especially pre-Nov. '04)? Did they keep addresses? Did they print adresses onto envelopes from a PC whose data could be retrieved? When LEO says he has "a massive amount of computer data regarding clients," what's he talking about? Did they log IP numbers of people who browsed the site? Old Pink, Lothar, Red or anyone who has knowledge of how this kind of business is/was run, please chime in.

[SaintVicious]

Damn you're a little late man, perhaps you should look at the hundred of other threads concerning this topic.

[Sportster]

What inof did O.G. have about their clients (especially pre-Nov. '04)? Did they keep addresses? Did they print adresses onto envelopes from a PC whose data could be retrieved?

Clients??...keep addresses??..print addresses on envelopes??

Why would we keep addresses, and why would we have these addresses, let alone print them on envelopes, envelopes??....for what??

[ClosetFarmer]

read the other articles bro... you'll find your answer if ye' shall look....

oh my God...the sky is falling and everyone forgot to tell me...

[Protostele]

LEO is an american slang term which is not used in Canada. It was very important for the RCMP to make the point that it was their operation and not run by the DEA this time. This is why there was the big RCMP crest prominently displayed at the press conference. Could you ensure you use the Canadian term RCMP and not LEO in any article you write?

Maintain the Right.

Protostele

[Sportster]

I am sure that once seed orders were sent, the paperwork would be destroyed.

HUH??.....the question was:

What info did Overgrow Keep?

OG never sent a seed to anyone, OG was a grow site not a seed venue, therefore there was NO reason to keep addresses we never saw, nor did we print envelopes to anyone, which we refered to as members rather than clients as the question asker stated...

So before the answers to this person's question get totaly outta whack, Please read a little bit deeper on the question asked before responding!!! :wink:

[Sportster]

I am not exactly sure why you had a fit regarding my answer

1st off, lets address this!! If I appeared to be having a fit you'd know it without a question, 2ndly, IF...it appeared that way to you JJ, then I am sorry, I surely wasn't in a "fitty" mood!!! So I hope this clears that up?!??!

Now then, I too felt Joe was or is confused as well, thus my 1st an 2nd answer, which wasn't directed towards you, rather some other confusion I felt that needed some clearing up!!

I have to disagree with what OG was to its owner.

Was this a question or debate I over looked on this thread??...seriously!!

It appears it was a steppingstone to Heavens Stairway

Yes, it would appear that way, as well as sponsers, no??....however, this being said still renders NO reason for OG to have clients, we called them members, which is, I am sure by definition is 2 different enities...Other than the email addy provided to become a member of OG, there was no reason for us to keep track of seed sales of another site, no matter who owes the sites, OG, unlike CW didn't have a seed breeders forum that catered to seed customers with each breeders help desks!!!

There is also a possibility that peoples mailing addresses for seed orders were kept for inventory purposes.

At OG??....why would OG store mailing addresses for seed orders when OG didn't sell seeds?? this isn't making sense....however your question is based on some kind of speculation, hence "possibility" in yer statment...

The lack of communication could also mean there was cooperation by the accused.

There wasn't anything more to communicate, from my understanding....April 6th was it?? that court hearings proceed for the charges, then I am sure we'll see more communication about it, when the story takes yet another turn I reckon.....again I see speculation in your comment "could also mean.." I guess it would be just as fair to speculate that no "cooperation" by the accused has ever happened, no??...

I dunno, I just see a guy worry'n about something he has every right to worry about I suppose, however when he askes about OG an the info we kept about seed sales an such...I am going to assure him we did NOT have that kinda info saved or stored at OG, there was simply NO reason for us to have that knowlage, or information since OG was not responsible for selling seeds, nor was OG ever a seed venue site, rather a growing site for those who wanted to learn the ins an outs of growing...If the members were smart about themselves, there is NO reason anyone should have a reason to worry about OG, IMVVHO!!!.....if there is a reason for someone to be worried about their time spent at OG, then its entirely on them, no??

[Sportster]

Oh an to answer Joe's question here....

When LEO says he has "a massive amount of computer data regarding clients," what's he talking about?

Where did LEO say this Joe, I think I missed that....however, IF...they have this massive amount of computer data regarding clients, I think I can safely say they aren't talking about OG, since we didn't have "clients" as I've mentioned earlier, rather "members.." the data OG has isn't going to be from seed businesses, just the email addresses provided to become a member I am sure will be there tho...

Hope that helps!!!

[Protostele]

Originally Posted by Sportster

Oh an to answer Joe's question here....



Where did LEO say this Joe, I think I missed that....however, IF...they have this massive amount of computer data regarding clients, I think I can safely say they aren't talking about OG, since we didn't have "clients" as I've mentioned earlier, rather "members.." the data OG has isn't going to be from seed businesses, just the email addresses provided to become a member I am sure will be there tho...

Hope that helps!!!

LEO did not say that quote. It was Staff Sgt. Andre Potvin of the RCMP's Montreal drug section and was in reference to Heaven's Stairway and not OG.

https://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/...adaseeds.shtml

"People who did business with Heaven's Stairway should be worried, Potvin warned. "We seized a huge amount of data in their computers and we will be tracing it," he said. "Here in Canada, people who bought seeds should worry. If we can trace customers and link them to the actual growing of marijuana plants, we will be looking at charges. We also received information from the DEA in regard to complaints they had from North Dakota and Wisconsin that kids were ordering seeds from Canada. We have transmitted all the information to all the other partners we have in the world."

It is just scare tactics which I don't pay much attention to but it sure freaked out a lot on here. It seems I have to learn the hard way but I am so low profile I'm sure I would have lots of warning before they worked their way down to the likes of me.

I assumed Reporter Joe with his one post was a real reporter snooping for info so he could write an article. I hope he realizes I'm serious about the LEO comment.

Protostele