What organic admendments do you use in your soil? - Organic Soil - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

Closet Funk · 03-21-2006, 09:16 AM

There are alot of different admendments out there that people use in their mixes. I think when it comes to organic it's all about what works well together. What are you using in your mixes? do you make your own? or do you just buy a ready mixed organic soil?

My Organic Mix:

Regular Potting Soil
Perlite
Espoma Plant-Tone (5-3-3) *contains micro/macro nutrients
Bone Meal (6-12-0) *just a tad bit in flowering
Garden Lime
Gypsum
Green Sand (0-0-1)
Kelp Meal

*feed flowering plants with Bio-Bloom and Indonesian Guano Tea

Opt1983 · 03-21-2006, 04:58 PM

I've been using a recipe LC gave me from back in the day at OG. It has worked great for me ever since i started using it. After a couple crops i am now trying to really tweak it to my plants likings. But for the most part, this starting mix is great, and when needed is backed up with a few teas.

basic mix to every gallon:
5 parts Peat
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings
2 TBL powdered dolomite lime
1 TBL kelp meal

Veg/flowering mix:
To the "Basic mix" above add:
1 TBL blood meal
2 TBL bone meal
1 TBL kelp meal
1 TBL Jersey Greensand

Basically ever since i've started using this mix, i've only had to use plain water that i add a little Thrive alive B1 green to the water until flowering. I've also heard that using Maxicrop or Liquid karma or both is also very good. With that mix above i try to mix that up... moiston it with a Wormcasting/kelp meal tea , and let it sit for around 2 weeks, mixing daily to keep it aerated etc. For the most part it's a really good starting mix which after u see how your plants respond you can alter it to your plants likings. -Opt

LavenderCowboy · 03-21-2006, 06:33 PM

Like opt says:

Basic Mix:
5 parts Canadian Spaghnam peat(or coconut coir)
3 parts medium perlite
2 parts wormcastings
2 TBS pulverized dolomite lime per gallon of the above mix

You can use dry/liquid, balanced/complete fertilizers with this mix....For newbies, it's always best to discuss the potting mix and it's ingredients before going out and purchasing...

For those using commercial "prepared" potting mixes:

6 parts potting mix
2 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings
2 TBS pulverized dolomite lime per gallon of the above mix

Same with using fertilizers....A grower has to consider the premixed fertilizer's in the potting mix when mixing....Hope this helps....LC

Blackmelo · 03-21-2006, 06:59 PM

I like lavender cowboy's mix best. Mine is very similar.

Peat was used alot in the olden days because it is cheap and can be found locally alot so did not need to be imported. It hasn't got the best draining qualities however and compacts over time, suffocating roots as it compacts. We are living in the 21st century and importing has become so cheap that peat should not be used anymore imo. I try to give my plants the best anyway.

What I add to my mix is very easy. 5% Bio-Bizz Pre-Mix and 10% Wormcastings.

A good replacement for the Pre-Mix is this home-made recipe:

2l bone meal

1l blood meal

1l Dolomite Lime

1l Kelp meal

1 cup of epsom salts

Closet Funk · 03-21-2006, 08:53 PM

I haven't used worm castings yet but I think I might next grow.

Stoney Girl · 03-22-2006, 02:23 AM

I use three ingredients: Sunshine Mix #2, Whitney Farms All-Purpose 5-5-5, and Maxicrop Soluble Seaweed Powder. I mix them at transplant and water until harvest.
I have used this mix on many different varieties of plants with great success including 2 first place Oregon Medical Cannabis Awards.

aeric · 03-22-2006, 12:21 PM

No-one has mentioned topdressing as opposed to using teas? Is that an uncommon practice?...as many back-of-package directions mention it.

Worm castings worked great (tried just once) until 2 weeks later (veg.) when they were all used up, not enough was added to the mix obviously.

It feel like tha ol days @uknowwhere with this new forum!

LavenderCowboy · 03-22-2006, 01:52 PM

aeric,

I wouldn't even consider "topdressing" over teas....I like the guarante the ferts are getting to the rootzone with teas....Wormcastings should be added at around 20% of the mix or used in teas....LC

Suby · 03-22-2006, 10:17 PM

I agree, the bubbling of the tea with a little molasses is what multiplies the beneficials in the mix and makes it active.
Topdressing is OK for guanos that aren't really active and are better broken down over a periode of time, with the EWC you want the full effect pronto.

03-23-2006, 06:42 PM

i use promix hp, with gaia garden 4-4-4, alfalfa meal, ewc, perlite, and lime. i water with teas 2 out of three waterings, then water. my teas have ewc, alfalfa, bat guano, molasses, soluble kelp, liquid humus, hygrozyme, brewer's yeast, and some of this and that

03-21-2006, 09:16 AM	#1
Closet Funk CeRtIfIeD OrGaNiC! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The Lake Posts: 1,828	What organic admendments do you use in your soil? There are alot of different admendments out there that people use in their mixes. I think when it comes to organic it's all about what works well together. What are you using in your mixes? do you make your own? or do you just buy a ready mixed organic soil? My Organic Mix: Regular Potting Soil Perlite Espoma Plant-Tone (5-3-3) contains micro/macro nutrients Bone Meal (6-12-0) just a tad bit in flowering Garden Lime Gypsum Green Sand (0-0-1) Kelp Meal feed flowering plants with Bio-Bloom and Indonesian Guano Tea __________________ "Smoke Good, Eat Good, Live Good"* Certified Organic! Last edited by Closet Funk; 03-21-2006 at 09:17 AM..
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03-21-2006, 04:58 PM	#2
Opt1983 Blueberry Bandit Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Corn fed. Posts: 162	I've been using a recipe LC gave me from back in the day at OG. It has worked great for me ever since i started using it. After a couple crops i am now trying to really tweak it to my plants likings. But for the most part, this starting mix is great, and when needed is backed up with a few teas. basic mix to every gallon: 5 parts Peat 3 parts perlite 2 parts wormcastings 2 TBL powdered dolomite lime 1 TBL kelp meal Veg/flowering mix: To the "Basic mix" above add: 1 TBL blood meal 2 TBL bone meal 1 TBL kelp meal 1 TBL Jersey Greensand Basically ever since i've started using this mix, i've only had to use plain water that i add a little Thrive alive B1 green to the water until flowering. I've also heard that using Maxicrop or Liquid karma or both is also very good. With that mix above i try to mix that up... moiston it with a Wormcasting/kelp meal tea , and let it sit for around 2 weeks, mixing daily to keep it aerated etc. For the most part it's a really good starting mix which after u see how your plants respond you can alter it to your plants likings. -Opt __________________ "Nothing important was ever achieved without someone taking a chance." "Bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush."
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03-21-2006, 06:33 PM	#3
LavenderCowboy Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 192	Like opt says: Basic Mix: 5 parts Canadian Spaghnam peat(or coconut coir) 3 parts medium perlite 2 parts wormcastings 2 TBS pulverized dolomite lime per gallon of the above mix You can use dry/liquid, balanced/complete fertilizers with this mix....For newbies, it's always best to discuss the potting mix and it's ingredients before going out and purchasing... For those using commercial "prepared" potting mixes: 6 parts potting mix 2 parts perlite 2 parts wormcastings 2 TBS pulverized dolomite lime per gallon of the above mix Same with using fertilizers....A grower has to consider the premixed fertilizer's in the potting mix when mixing....Hope this helps....LC __________________ To starve the soil, is to starve the life that depends on it....
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03-21-2006, 06:59 PM	#4
Blackmelo and his mighty gerbil ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 434	I like lavender cowboy's mix best. Mine is very similar. Peat was used alot in the olden days because it is cheap and can be found locally alot so did not need to be imported. It hasn't got the best draining qualities however and compacts over time, suffocating roots as it compacts. We are living in the 21st century and importing has become so cheap that peat should not be used anymore imo. I try to give my plants the best anyway. What I add to my mix is very easy. 5% Bio-Bizz Pre-Mix and 10% Wormcastings. A good replacement for the Pre-Mix is this home-made recipe: 2l bone meal 1l blood meal 1l Dolomite Lime 1l Kelp meal 1 cup of epsom salts __________________ I taught some1 to grow weed. Thought I was doing him a favour. Turns out he just used me to learn from the pro and then reported me to the police. Don't know what hurt more, beeing betrayed in such a horrible way or the cops knicking all my stuff Now an ex-grower here to give advice.
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03-21-2006, 08:53 PM	#5
Closet Funk CeRtIfIeD OrGaNiC! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The Lake Posts: 1,828	I haven't used worm castings yet but I think I might next grow. __________________ "Smoke Good, Eat Good, Live Good" Certified Organic!
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03-22-2006, 02:23 AM	#6
Stoney Girl New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 22	I use three ingredients: Sunshine Mix #2, Whitney Farms All-Purpose 5-5-5, and Maxicrop Soluble Seaweed Powder. I mix them at transplant and water until harvest. I have used this mix on many different varieties of plants with great success including 2 first place Oregon Medical Cannabis Awards.
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03-22-2006, 12:21 PM	#7
aeric Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,260	No-one has mentioned topdressing as opposed to using teas? Is that an uncommon practice?...as many back-of-package directions mention it. Worm castings worked great (tried just once) until 2 weeks later (veg.) when they were all used up, not enough was added to the mix obviously. It feel like tha ol days @uknowwhere with this new forum! __________________ everything is everything; what it is is what it is.. -c
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03-22-2006, 01:52 PM	#8
LavenderCowboy Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 192	aeric, I wouldn't even consider "topdressing" over teas....I like the guarante the ferts are getting to the rootzone with teas....Wormcastings should be added at around 20% of the mix or used in teas....LC __________________ To starve the soil, is to starve the life that depends on it....
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03-22-2006, 10:17 PM	#9
Suby AWD Aficianado Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the healing arms of planet love. Posts: 2,435	I agree, the bubbling of the tea with a little molasses is what multiplies the beneficials in the mix and makes it active. Topdressing is OK for guanos that aren't really active and are better broken down over a periode of time, with the EWC you want the full effect pronto. __________________ Organic Fanatic Collective Suby's Kitchen The "Beer" Fridge ~Pimp Your Organic Fertilizer~
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03-23-2006, 06:42 PM	#10
irie-i Guest Posts: n/a	i use promix hp, with gaia garden 4-4-4, alfalfa meal, ewc, perlite, and lime. i water with teas 2 out of three waterings, then water. my teas have ewc, alfalfa, bat guano, molasses, soluble kelp, liquid humus, hygrozyme, brewer's yeast, and some of this and that
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