[Aeroguerilla]

Amen brother

[sith44]

I sure as fuck don't want to smoke weed that's $100-$150 per ounce. You cant grow top shelf weed and tend to it properly with organic nutrients for that price.. unless your crazy. Good weed takes time, money and caring.

[Pophamseasmoke]

Preach!!

[Tokin_Jo]

We can and we do grow top shelf. No one I mean no one who has had our weed has EVER said they have had better. ECSD/ chemdog/ most strains we have were selected from more than three packs of beans by ourselves and other growers. Some of these people had been dealers all their lives. We are not greedy as some of you. We can keep our overhead under $10000/month and still charge $150/ounce easily. Looking at a 2500sft canopy in a heated greenhouse which will easily yield $60/square ft. That comes to $150k a run... Two of our kids just got their cards, and one is now taking patients that We have to refuse. They will apply for a store front license to sell when maine legalizes. We could sell it for less than a $100/ounce if we felt the need. Its not about YOU greedy little people!!!!

[sith44]

Somehow I don't believe you. You make it sound so easy to us "little people." And you're just going to get a storefront too? Must be sooo easy. Sounds like to me you have no idea what the reality of things are, or how to do them.

[Weird]

Tokin Jo

there is a defect in your reasoning and I will explain. I agree people deserve access to reasonable medications that is why people should be able grow their own for free.

Price should be relative to legality and in a healthy model you would think that the scalability would offset costs but this is too idealistic since there is no accounting in this model for government.

There is why the government prefers recreational to medical. Medicine is not be taxed the same way recreational items (beer tobacco). People should be free to grow for themselves and others and use it medicinally as they do aspirin(over the counter no script). slight difference in paradigm big difference in effect on market.

the faster you seek to lower margins the quicker people will lower quality to compete thus lowering the bar across the board and the model of legalization you favor will do the same thing as the cost to the patient is burdened further.

But what I really dislike however is that your trying to polarize a community that need not be. your forcing competition when its not necessary, your being grandiose if you think 2500 sq ft will change the market anyway.

if you are truly doing what you believe is right by your patients why do other growers have to be part of the equation? they don't unless your looking to compete versus simply be.

very "babylon" if you ask me

another defective aspect is this

not everyone who needs it is in a position to pay at all, some people will never be functional

in a model were everything is cheap as possible and only a few profit (wall mart) there is no charity to be had because the "excess" of the employee who used to be in a position to give no longer can

here were legality is not a reality some of us have worked this way all along

im willing to bet you would help more people if you charge 10% to those who could give and gave it for free to those who have nothing

[Pophamseasmoke]

Well said!! Weird, I truly don't think you have a clue Tokin. And I believe that legalization is going to make prices go up as seen in the states it has already been legalized in. Another aspect if you have employees then your talk'n big $$$ Comp, taxes, insur, so many expenses I don't think you really no how it works. But good luck! There will be so many hoops to jump threw to get a store just like a liquor license.

[sith44]

Pophamseasmoke I agree with you 100% you too Weird: Yep...you're going to need insurance, workers comp insurance, health codes, fire department codes, agricultural cards, attorneys to start your LLC, accountants, labor costs...and did you know that you have to pay taxes for each and every employee you have above and beyond their normal wage? Plus: Retail Licenses, and whatever license you're going to need to retail sale the MMJ in the first place....then you have your monthly fixed expenses: Electricity, municipal water, rent /lease/ or mortage and that entails CAM charges for things like handyman work and snow removal (maine) etc....good luck with that selling your "high quality" weed at those prices and meeting your overheads. You'll be out of business in a short time or your business model will be....one or the other. I grow strictly for medical use and the buddy I grow with is medical( cancer in his tonsils) and I supply to 3 other terminally ill patients and It's my job is to grow the best, most organically potent pain killing weed known to man....and I would be lucky to make a dime off of $200 per ounce...and constantly ask myself if it's even worth it to grow it other than the fact I know its the safest and best medicine I can get my hands on. I use Biobizz and Bioheaven ain't cheap...especially if you use all the nutes right. Plus the effort it takes to remove the chlorine from the water to feed the plants...sheesh!

[idiit]

playing ball the system way will be expensive. product grown within the system and distributed within the system will have to reflect the high $cost of doing so.

i got no clue as to how it will work out. me thinks a lot of od product will be grown and distributed thru the grey market.

grey/black markets exist everywhere in the world. the higher the cost of doing biz within the system the more ppl go outside the system.

we are all definitely keeping a close eye on how things work themselves out. all it takes is a few strategically placed geographic areas to not comply for the grey area to thrive; product, customers.

[Tokin_Jo]

Read the new proposed bill then come back and reply if you want. I'm vastly underestimating yields.....I'm out, they dont want me giving up any info. I can say legal weed will be entering the free market soon enough. Keep on keeping those prices up there!