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Old 06-25-2017, 03:57 PM #171
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so last post first:
looks pretty accurate to me yuba..not to say great....from such big set ups i can only dream about...
in spain its able maybe but best is to move to States or Kannada when you really want to do your thing or get youre living in the cannaindustry-farming
but i keep looking in for that topic...
and yeah some action in this thread would be pretty cool....
but i guess you have to feed the monster with more pics to wake it up........
btw just for fun here is and outdor plant of mine , not as big as youres lol and they never will, one times i had one big plant, but better have more but smaller plants at this spot......







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When soil gets hot its because microbes are breaking it down and it heats up composting. More microbes would just make it more hot because it speeds that up!
true ...but on the other hand you can also give help and regulation to overfeedet plants with EM-a or ACT...i got the feeling the go down or go up cycles are nearly crossing...my last sentence makes no sense or , but i cant describe it better sry...

but i did made white glowing soil...thats past...i really learned over ic and my vegetable and cann growing how less nutes you need on living soil...

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well the problem here is your foundation is coupled to the earth via a stacked stone wall that will actually draw moisture from the soil up into the wall..
only at not proper fundamentals or not have giving better location cause groundwater is to high...one who got glue dont get this problems...the ones who build there houses on shitty place with shitty house building company's are not lucky...but in the past before 2000 there wasnt so much shit companys out there...thats newer problem.. ...no money ..bad tax...bla...no labor

in common rather a rare problem over here that humidity climbs up walls but sometimes yes, but not high up, only down at bottom and celler.. ...the base or socket is covered by cement plaster class3 which get hard without oxygenbla(under-water-cement-plaster and pretty massive and hard...on upper walls there is more emission able lime-cement plaster ..the stones the houses are build of are arteficial mineral stones with heavy emissions-ablity for water ...in past not today,the past was better, they took real stones only for celler fundaments which is not emissionable, today cellerfundament is out of concrete when done proper)...only on socket and cellerarea some peeps have to renew paint often ,some not,cause salpeter nitrogensalt is coming through wall on to surface but thats not really a problem...moisture dont come upper then celler in most cases .....when its bad construction and place to build or even when taking cheap and not proper done tar paint isolation on fundament...its not an big step in house building here but when done bad you fckt yeah...
a solution at bad spots is to plant some climbing plant or so at the socket which takes moisture...but thats really rare problem...
believe me in our case it was : they just didnt open window never and having cooking air in there forever and high humidity in air and the walls are thick , so it stay long cold and then more condensation water at wall...
but yes if you insulate the problems will summed and many more new problems pop up.....
our location never would need isolation(like in many other places or most cases where they did nonetheless) but i got fear they gonne force people soon maybe...hope not ..

so im not finished reading your long post but i did need ages for writing my post here hehe...but its good practice..i realized i need another word for but in my english wordtreasure eheh...
i come back later...rain is coming ...i have to celebrate it like i am would living in the desert , now...
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lol, so when you go and slap on a shit load of insulation onto this wall... it has no where to go but into the insulation, and into the drywall and into the living space IF YOU ARE LUCKY.

if you are unlucky, the moisture will never get a chance to migrate all the way into the living space, and it will instead get trapped behind some paint layer, or behind a vapor barrier plastic film...or even just get trapped behind an OSB(chip board sheets that replaced plywood). sheathing.

when moisture gets trapped you are fucked. shit will jsut grow mold and rot your framing.
you say it.....
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that passivhaus you mentioned was that sort of houses i was reffering to earlier....but i highly prefer natural damming....hempcrete is great it seems....
but back to normal living houses which get isolted over here....its most of the time a fraud cause they build in no ventilation system......crazy or...some specislist was saying that the surface of the wall which is isoltated with styrodur or st else gets 80 degrees celcius hot
or more in summers ....the mineralclue plaster wont last long...there is also a big security issue with artificial isolation and fire...
.i guess with natural isolation this is better

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for old stone houses with old stone foundation walls, you really need to address this moisture issue first. In the UK they call this issue, "rising damp", but its basically just moisture moving up the walls.
to fix this issue you can inject epoxy, or siloxane based chemicals into the walls
aha yep...but very expensive procedure over here....

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like i said, it can be very very hard to successfully air seal and super insulate an old building. its much easier to do on a new building though.
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regarding the ERV units... honestly i cant believe that germans of all people would overlook installing these units properly?
not at small citizens private houses...no small time people even can afford this test as well i guess...

the problem is the peeps who got no glue from facility's,housing,constructio n and so on, which do their living complete different areas : they just hear on that what the companys tell them, they kno they must save money,must save energy,they all tell them insulate...and air-ventilation companys are complete different space than isoltion companys...so isoltion company tell them customers nothing from air ventilation and stuff...they just want that contract done..i mean there also good companys out there but this happens quit often ...
but some peeps slowly wake up...its a big isoltion lobby and it was a big economy push too i guess for some time...and the government had put in money subvention for peeps

but i guess why this erv units are a bigger over there is cause wood framing houses cant stand humidity at all i guess or ?? and i guess wood framing house are more difficult to get sealed than a massive house ??massive houses flats are sealed instead of the little slit under entrance door...its all plasterd and windows are tight even without acryl or silicon...
and ventilation ec. for cooling was never a needed thing on older house without isolation...cause we got no really long ultra hot phases over here...
at my place here...the father of my girlfriend did good...at 30 celcius outside its nice and cold down at bottom flat when keeping windows closed at day.....
also our houses with peak roof are kind of like an chimney, humidity and some emission go of trough the tile roof sitting on timber joist and roof laths...
the thing is : a passive house approach is another than this additional isolation rip off no sense thing...
a passive house and double wastewater using with an biogas reactor is for 'rich 'people...
this other isolation game is a different game...a rip off game in many cases...
the old construction standart for massive houses from 1955 was the best for 1-6 family living houses..but this houses did need a year to dry before it could go on...
smart people build like this until today...
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today its mostly instant houses from

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https://www.fertighausscout.de/
i bet the half of this new instant houses have no ventilation...
but i kno : on old living houses they do not build in a ventilation
in addition when they isolate a house...

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perhaps i have a stereotypical view of germans as all being fastidious, detial oriented and well educated?? lol, even my 2nd generation german immigrant friends are super super anal about everything from fixing paint chips on cars to keeping their pc desktops super clean and tidy and organized lol...
eheh....no you dont...sounds familiar...but it gets nastier and nastier over here...
education on low level income peeps is going down crazy...
the middlestand which was always a big economy standbein gets smaller and smaller...
i mean we have great education,great booming industrys and so on but there is also an other site...same as in all first world countries...the scissor between rich and poor gets more open and open..as you kno anyway...
edit...it was a long time all allright here but since late 2000 it goes more and more to GDR2...now they can force witnesses to talk...



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how much did you pay for the panels and stuff?10-15k?
it seem you have a lot of sun there ??
how much lights you runing?
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about water:do you use a ram pump ?
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I don't run much for lights. I'm greenhouse and outdoor mostly. I do minimal supplemental lighting usually. The most i run off battery and solar is 400w for mothers and clones. When i need more then that i run straight off the genny. It will kill your batteries trying to run killowatts of lighting. Solar for indoor growing just isn't there yet on the battery end of things.
For pumps i try to use dc positive displacement pumps as much as possible. They are super efficient compared to centrifugal.

I am not even sure what i paid. All in i have sunk more then 10-15k for sure. The house came with the system and i added to It. I actually lease my batteries but to buy them they would cost me over 10k by themselves. My gennies were allot. We get a load of sun in the summer but not in the winter. When the sun is shining I'm using it to grow plants, not trying to convert it into energy to artificially light plants. Most of the light added is just to prevent flowering using minimal 7w led bulbs.
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not at small citizens private houses...no small time people even can afford this test as well i guess...

the problem is the peeps who got no glue from facility's,housing,constructio n and so on, which do their living complete different areas : they just hear on that what the companys tell them, they kno they must save money,must save energy,they all tell them insulate...and air-ventilation companys are complete different space than isoltion companys...so isoltion company tell them customers nothing from air ventilation and stuff...they just want that contract done..i mean there also good companys out there but this happens quit often ...
but some peeps slowly wake up...its a big isoltion lobby and it was a big economy push too i guess for some time...and the government had put in money subvention for peeps

but i guess why this erv units are a bigger over there is cause wood framing houses cant stand humidity at all i guess or ?? and i guess wood framing house are more difficult to get sealed than a massive house ??massive houses flats are sealed instead of the little slit under entrance door...its all plasterd and windows are tight even without acryl or silicon...
and ventilation ec. for cooling was never a needed thing on older house without isolation...cause we got no really long ultra hot phases over here...
at my place here...the father of my girlfriend did good...at 30 celcius outside its nice and cold down at bottom flat when keeping windows closed at day.....
also our houses with peak roof are kind of like an chimney, humidity and some emission go of trough the tile roof sitting on timber joist and roof laths...
the thing is : a passive house approach is another than this additional isolation rip off no sense thing...
a passive house and double wastewater using with an biogas reactor is for 'rich 'people...
this other isolation game is a different game...a rip off game in many cases...
the old construction standart for massive houses from 1955 was the best for 1-6 family living houses..but this houses did need a year to dry before it could go on...
smart people build like this until today...
but
today its mostly instant houses from

composite material
https://www.fertighausscout.de/
i bet the half of this new instant houses have no ventilation...
but i kno : on old living houses they do not build in a ventilation
in addition when they isolate a house...

eheh....no you dont...sounds familiar...but it gets nastier and nastier over here...
education on low level income peeps is going down crazy...
the middlestand which was always a big economy standbein gets smaller and smaller...
i mean we have great education,great booming industrys and so on but there is also an other site...same as in all first world countries...the scissor between rich and poor gets more open and open..as you kno anyway...
edit...it was a long time all allright here but since late 2000 it goes more and more to GDR2...now they can force witnesses to talk...



i definatly agree that true "passivehause" standards really are for rich folks... but what im seeing here in the states is middle income folks chasing the passivehause systems though with cheaper windows and MUCH cheaper doors...

a true passivehauss door here in the US costs literally 10 grand. there are only a few people building them and they are pretty much custom build deals with 4" foam slabs clad in furniture grade plywood that is then veneered with high end hardwoods or what ever you specify... canada makes some very good doors, but its a PITA to import them due to shipping and customs duties.

i do agree with you that its very very hard to justify something like a super insulated passivehaus. the additional cost takes something like 30 years to pay off and you are often times dealing with inexperianced contractors unfamiliar with the building techniques necessary. it really is for green enthusiast people.

in reality it often makes more sense to build a far lesser insulated structure, and simply slap like 8kw of solar panels onto the roof to offset the additional electricity you will be consuming to heat and cool... it sounds insane, but if you just look at super high end krypton gas insulated triple pane vinyl windows you will see why this is the case.
a simple well made generic double pane argon window can be as little as 600 bucks for a 60x60 horizontal slider.

a high end triple pane with krypton of the same size can easily hit 1200 bucks. multiply that by your average window count of like 18 windows... and you have the cost of like a dozen solar panels already.

regarding shitty contractors... i guess its just a universal thing. sucks, but the best thing you can do is know your shit before you hire someone.
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. When the sun is shining I'm using it to grow plants, not trying to convert it into energy to artificially light plants. Most of the light added is just to prevent flowering using minimal 7w led bulbs.
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