Foeman, can you describe the whiteKrush buzz, by chance? Here is some of your POW x PI BX, I think, hehe. The vigor and appearance got a grower or two excited, if the pic seems small, apologies. Also, I just gifted out some BSHW beans, I was under the impression half of it or so was the Purple Z, a mexican, even hit with an affie, would it be considered an indica or just hybrid? Thanks

[FOE20]

hey Bob....awwe cute lil puppies!..nice bro good to see ya in the mix....
the WK f1s I ran and tried out were still mostly Whites...had 1 mixed and the effect was still allot White based, White is munchies, tastie, strong, and mixed effect , not like a chem or D strait..but more mixed as I do get the TK in that just not much Kush tones at all, think the K in TK is a monicor only....and I have even more feeling about TK but will not talk on that..
but the main reason I did a Bx and a f2...I wanted to find a GK dom mixed phenom..its easy to tell to..smell the stalks...simple give away even in veg IMO...run the DblWhitK..look for GK...thats the pool Im in atm..
on BSHW not sure...do you have any of the old hybs I made of those?.....what do yo have for stock on that?....man its hard to say..but I'd agree on a poss Mexi-Oax or somethin..i could see that and it was relative..i didnt get allot of Purps outa BSHW but I ran her lite fed and not sure I can say it was on point at all...
Purple Z...man....you know what that is?...heh...its like a dream..
and its IMO actually Z-Purple...(heh..get it?...Za purple..the Purple..)


Ok now lets f*k this up a li bit....Cannabis is cool...Pot rocks!...
for those following along heres the latest...
White Grape - doing very well...
TMix phenoms...-impressive!...check pics..tall a lil lanky-space hog but rockin ass!..
DjBB gettin happier...
MOB just hangin round...
Skunks killin any extra space left...heh...
a pile of love for IC 420 cup headed in soon!...
FOE20

No, mine came from a diff source. And it was just the BSHW, no cross. But I just sent em out, lol. I thought it would be too sativa for me. Now I see a few peeps reworkin it, lol, story of my life. Thanks for the descriptors on your crosses, appreciated.

[FOE20]

more....few more WhtGrape pics...also the Dbl WhiteK - White phenom...man shes a thick lil momma....some DjBB Im workin on gettin to express best....and a TMix phenom...shes a beaute!..
that mess of a plant is osSSh wall crawlin...

[OldLuck]

Hey Foe, have you ran ndn's BSHW purple stem pheno's? Also what skunks you rocking? You have any road kill funk type skunks or more on the fruity/sweet side? I have been hearing good things about the MOB. How do you like her so far? How does the white grapes smoke?

Amazing pics like always bro. 2 green funky thumbs up.

[FOE20]

heh...man OldLuck bro...your way ahead of me m8!.....no I never got ndn's BSHW..the way ndn and I worked was diff....we would talk every now n then on stock and sorta give n take from eachother...his actual orig list....good gawd man....just impeccable...
I chose the things I wanted to work with and he got what he wanted from me as well..
I ran Bodhi's BSHW heirlooms...and never got further into the line...
I did run a long time ago S.A.G.E and think that also had a BSHW in it...but SAGE is really Affi to me...literally like a Sage Afghan...
bt as said really the BSHW is a cali coastal Indica dom...
now to tell ya how out there I was....my thought back then was BigSur was a Hawaiian...heh...and I was chasin Hawaiian ass...after a lil study up I learned soon it wasn't really...heh....it was BSur Cali...

Skunks I cant say much yet..they stink but its a more Thai dom funk atm..SkN#1, #3 are def more Thai-classic/fruity-citrus?...#2 tho..def a lil more Funky..in a good way...but I biffed the first set...SkN #3 made it and it still growing...had to pull SkN#1, 2....but all 3 were cloned..and new moms are already flipped!....shit grows like a weed!...lol...go figure...
these are not hard worked Skunks...I can tell..very big pool or whatever but man are they Sativa city!...I'll talk more as I learn from them bro..I got a limited hyb if ya want to try um..

not enjoyed the Wgrape phenom yet...but hell yea Im just holdin out atm...but shes still growin man..and this is only 1 plant of 2 selections...perty good so far...
That WGrape plant is a lil over dosed...I looked her up and to me she will do even better..
She stopped growing but not flowering...its what i call forced to early which was me tryin to nail her with a P-K hammer to early is all....but thnx man...I'l be talkin at ya soon bradda
FOE20

[FOE20]

For Laughing Jim.....could this be about Ortega....and or the Maple Leaf?.....

My latest work is actually in direct respect for Jim Ortega and his work...
Its a hybrid of my best Ortega phenom (ML)Male and Mazar line cultivar...
Im simply calling the line "More"......
Far as the rest....its just lovin life....keep um rollin
FOE20

[hempyftw]

Bunch of respect for what you do!

I'm curious how many plants you've grown out over your life?

If you had to pick your top 5 strains ever what would they be?

I've never had such a selection like you! I bet you've seen some amazing plants.

Love how different the variations can be.

Different looking leaves, is a guerrilla growers dream.

Rock on man. Hope I get ahold of some of your work some time!

[FOE20]

gratzi hempftw....kewl questions brah..
guess I'd say it all happened like this..
by age 13-14 I was hangin with interesting folk..hard core metal-biker types..I play guitar and would jam with ppl..
so by mid 80s I had seen a few drug...really good drugs not like it is now..mesc, trip, not much on shrooms but cid and mesc were abundant here...same was import herb and cola...really what it is , is some cites play to the traffic, I was always in a city that was a big pass thru which means when the herb droped ppl would save and grow the seed....In the midwest OD all thru the 80s...well into the 90s...so...Cali and PNW and all the big names were not the only places kickin wonder plants around...Im talkin Ka, Ia, Ne, Mo, In, Ky, etc....Early stuff was anything you could get...But by mid 80s the seed catalogs happened.(+ Nevils first advert in HT..etc)..
Older folks knew..the Seed Bank was a big deal..huge...then shorty after sssc, and they bought the shit outa them (cheap!) and used those old lines the way they should of been..and still do..I know folk who speak of libraries..these are places where genetics are held...for extremely long periods of time..In usually both seed and mother form...
Just wanted to say that cause the most normal view is most happened elsewhere or on the coast lines...
the Midwest is Farming and it was the place for allot more than just corn and cows...heh...
right bout early 90s it all hit...
Affis, Kush, Thais, mauis Haw's, BubbleGum's, NLs , Skunks galore, etc etc...mid 90s late 90s WWidows, Rhinos. Blues galore...
thats exactly how it happened here....By late 90s early 2k the Hype bs and Kush hype nick had started and was taking over...Dutch had flooded the market....it was easy..cheap and ppl bought them up like hot cakes...
Quality dropped..
Quantity increased....
from about late 80s helped grow-manage or lil later helped select and choose..by 89 I was choosing my own seed to run from distinct stocks..
also in 88 cuts were already being passed and I hadf received a heirloom of the Mazar I(in 90 this was already a 20th gen cut from the orig mom and was passed with that info in tow, and it did matter back then)..but I ran the hell outa this creature...
(we were all in the mid 80s..had a few $$ and passed sac's and stoll weed or seeds from our folks..lol..things changed really fast)..this was comin out highschool tho ya know..wild times..corn row runs,....closet rigs..etc...very hard to grow herb in the midwest in the late 80s..might of well been cookin coke..

It got serious later..prox by `88 it wasn;t all playing around..and same yrs I started documented varieties...and had the Maz to boot which was the First Oregon based "true Pure line Kush hybrid"....but good luck gettng anyone to believe that now a days...I got it from musicians and not just any..well known backing players for Jazz folk...as said I played guitar....so it was natural..
I had at this point only grown I'd say a handfull of whatever...and specilized in the Maz by 90...poped in 92 w 10plants...game over....
for about 2yrs...
so now we come to `94-95...scene is thriving...full of options for seed and avail cuts are growing in no#s...
I bailed a state and ended up in KS...mid 90s...
so personally grown started about here really for me....
Friends were flying over to Adam..buying seed direct...biker crews were holdin best cuts and serious party favors...
Some folk were asked to help in selections and growing and I happen to be 1 for some reason...
basically I didnt drink, or party hard and respected folk..they intrusted me..
I smoked plenty and was already becommin a "green guy" not by choice...worked with many folk in a few sites in KS thru 90s...
into 2k...lots of work was done...aprox 10-12yrs worth and 100s of varieties..
Now I go solo....its early 2k....I have $ and I settle down...I go balls out on my seed stock and start meeting even more exotic folk Online thru mirc/ect...not canna/direct seed sites...I was still a celler dweller and didnt; play in the real world allot...still dont like to much to be honest...
Soon as i settled in..I poped and went off...
By 2010 I had grown at least 150-200 varieties from seed in my own place not including any past work..
at this point...I have no idea at all on #'s...Ive seen plants that make me wonder about our own existence..That looked like they were right out of Jurrasic park...
some looked GMO'd already...so I jusy kept goin...and here we are..
Now a days is alot more work to find good stock but from that we still manage to find great plants...
Im very particular about what I work and it is the basis of my reason fo being in the scene at all..To rep the varieties and bring back their true forms for all of us...Not based on flower times, hype or glam....
Simple, old, slow and easy is the way it is for me...and hope to pass on that feeling to others as well...
I do have a list...a direct list of everything Ive ran and doc;d for the most part...heres part of it...or a unupdated part of it...enjoy it as I have..

for herbs...I just pulled some and heres a few pics..plus the latest view of WGrape, TMix3 and others...I fed ok this set but actually came up short IMO on P-K..not frosty enough..quality is good..the early green lookin plants are seeded so i have to pull them so they dont rot at this point..will remove seed, and hash the rest...
FOE20
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3xBMoonshine
5xBMoonshine
72% Gooey (gooey breeder)
91 ChemD s1 - (motareb?)
Acapulco Gold - helped grow these...not my grow...a learning place..
Afghan #1 - Seedsman, sensi, verious unknowns
ak47 (Serious) seed, cut
akDSDv2 (WFarmer)
ApolloThunder (SBros)
Banana OG (OKid cut)
BC Bomber - (ABN)
Black Domina (?)
BlackRuss f3 (Heath)
Black Wid f2 (MNS/Bannan)
Blockhead (SOL)
Blowfish (DF/dogsnob)
BlueBaloney (clips)
BlueBerry - (heirloom cut, orig BB, TBB, - DjShort)
Blue cheese (Buddha)
BBerry IBL (TIM)
BlueMoonshine (DP/cone)
BlueBerry x Oax (Reef/Vic/Rushman)
BlueSatellite .v1 (SOL)
BlueThai (motareb)
Blurple - FBsat x PBut?(ABN)
BogBubble
Bogs BMRocks
Bogs Sour B Bx2,3
Bubba kush (p98) -
BubbaOkush (motareb)
Bubblicious (Nirv)
BunanaDawg - (Blake)
c99 (? , SBros)
Cali-O (Fem)
Catpiss (Fed)
Cherry47 (Bannan)
CherryBomb II
Chocalope (cut)
Columbian Gold - helped in grows of these...not personal grows...
Dabney BBerry (cut)
DannyBoy (TGA)
Dark Kush (Bluehemp)
DeepChunk (THill)
DDutch - (Magus)
DPDxBRuss (Heath)
EarlySk / HP - (sensi)
Endless Sky - (SBros)
FBlueSativa (cut)
F13 (DjS)
FOEBerry
g13/BSH (ndn)
g13/HP `88 (ndn)
g13 x OGkush (motareb)
g13/WW (MNS/Heath)
GDP (greek)
GDP x DPD (OutlawGrower)
GDP x LUI (ndnguy)
GApe x JTR - (ndn?)
GiantCindy (SBros)
GrapeKrush (DjShort)
GrapeGod (TRC)
Hasberry - (Mandala)
Hash Plant - Sensi,
Headband (Loompa)
Herijuana - (moterab/woodhorse)
Hindu Kush - Bodhi, Nirv, SNguy,
HoneyBee (Legends)
IndanaBubbleGum (ndnguy)
ISS (Fed)
K2 - (Nirv?)
Kahili Web (HWI/DFoot - ck2)
KillaQueen f5 (moterab)
Kryptoberries (capt crip)
KrypotKrush (ABN)
LA Con (DNA)
LemonDust Kush - (ABN)
Lemon Shark - (ABN)
LUI - (Legends/SOL?)
Luna Blue - (ABN)
MauiWowieHaw Sk (HQS)
Mental Floss (Chimera)
MightMite (?)
MkUlta (THseeds?)
MMite/SSk (Brendas)
Mishku (ABN-Maz)
NH/JH x BM (Kaya)
NL - (sensi, DrAtomic)
NL5 - (bcsc)
NorCal Gooey
NYCD - (soma)
Orange Vel (TGA)
Ortega (TexasKid)
Papaya (Nirv)
Pink Kush (Reef)
Purp-G (the orig line Gruru KOC), POW (motarebs work)
Pure Kush (cut)
Purp #1 (?HQS?)
Purp Butters (ABN/KOC)
PurpButters x Heri (motareb)
Purp Indica (PNW heirloom cut)
Purp Ind - Bx1, Bx2
Purp Rhino (DrLoad)
Purp Urkle (cut)
Purple kush (cut)
Purp Widow - (www)
Romulan (Fed)
SillyGum - (SillyBreeder/AmBreeder/StickyRicky)
SpaceQueen (TGA)
SPGxHaze (RkyMtnBuds)
StrawCough (KKSC)
Skunks Nest - somewhat inline skunk pool
Super Skunk (sensi)
Sputnik v1 (TGA)
Swt v1, #3 (SOL)
SourD (cut-east coast ver)
Sour D IBL (Heath)
Thai - only helped late 80s early 90s....to wild for me to understand at the time...learning...
Treasure Mix `08 (ABN)
UV-1 - (ABN)
UV-2 - (ABN)
VelveteenRabbit (KOC)
Vortex (TGA)
White - (Krome cut)
White Krush - (theJoker)
White Grape - (ABN)
WhiteRhino (Nirv, GH?)
WhiteSatin (Mandala)
WWidow - (GH, Nirv, sensi?)
WillyNelson (Barneys)
WWonder - (sssc, ndnguy)
Yumbolt (Sagar)
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on the new atm-----
MOB
Giesel
91 ChemD cut
etc....

[FOE20]

take me down to the paradise city...grass is (grren?!..no) great! and the girls are pretty...