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01-14-2013, 04:39 PM
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well I'd like to but I dont have access to that actual cut OldLuck....I['d prob give it a run for sure but its just another one of many..I'd choose a Bullrider, AffiBlack or Triple Slam over a HP but I still dig um all..
those Ghash's motareb and ndn seemed to work those already... I have the f-gens and have run them and yea their quite dank indeed... but me and motareb have not talked in a while and I'll respect that work and don't think I'll be reproducing it any time soon...I'll say its a great HashPlant indeed... What ABN may do is rework a old line we used to run called EarlySkunk - Hash Plant...and yes it is a old Sensi bred but has been worked here a few times and is just all round good headies...Yields bout 2x the Ghash cause of the ESk end... Im stoked on the BFish myself but were still on hold there...Im only hoping it is atm as it does show the proper form and some smell traits are right on...the final word wil be mid way thru bloom or close to the end where I'll know and it will look damn like the Parent shown earlier....If it is tho Im dropping some BFish stock to work it properly indeed... and yea this is goin back to the 80s/90s Axl grease g13's...those old HPs are good but their still HP's ya know....mainly best for Hash, easy yields and mid'i qualities but over matured hash from them is excellent..Which is what HP's are for really... Just got a lil communica from our IC brethren.....I'll be sorting beans for the IC Cup Fund soon and truly wish I could be there and may even try to make it...There is however a chance that Tony will attend and if so Im gana try to get him some of our samples for the Cup!...thats all up in the air tho but being as its not till 4:20...hell I def got time!... But no matter, least we will be there in spirit... Tell ya what tho..ABN isn't lookin for Keeper momas atm...Im lookin for Keeper Dads first...and some may think Im using small short runs but thats true..But I run multiple short runs..not just 1 run..heh... So instead of 10-20seeds in a start I do 3-5 seed..Study them well, Select and move to next set of 4 or 8 at a time...It never stops..Atm Im dong this on 4-5 lines.. Ortega - polly has just been used on the Orig Ortega Cut!... DWKrush - workin the White Grape KGold/Lav Sensi 95 NL Martega and next lets hope to see these old ladies in the show... Williams Wonder - Sagar work WonderBerry - Sagar work BubbleBerry - new work for Sagar KryptoKrush - Im gana run them... LemonDust Kush or PaleAle Purp Indica Bx project the Purple Wonders pool and so much more...... ----------- keep rollin FOE20 Last edited by FOE20; 01-16-2013 at 01:14 AM.. |
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01-18-2013, 11:48 PM
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Parthenocarpe Diem
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One thing anyone can count on from ABN is we want to change how folk grow Canna..
We don;t want ppl to just try strains and keep searching and searching for what could be right in front of them... We believe that allot of todays potency issues stem from under matured improperly grown herb... I'd like to state clearly that All or most all ABN varieties will run a min of 8wks..but we pref to take most to 10wks at the least... this means Everything runs longer...We don;t force...we don't believe in Genetic Pools being Weak and feel most of that is inaccurate doc's based on improper grows... What this means in whole tho is a great thing...If 80% of genetic diversity is dismissed because of End result how many would be worthy if the Plants were studied and taken to their full expression and maturation?...All of a sudden many varieties would be worthy "Effect" wise...But now we have time constraints, prod costs and schedules to keep... So my personal view is almost all or I'd say a great % of All avail genetics are worthy and as we've been taught its mostly about Selection of those.. But please for the love of Canna pass on that information so that others can reach the same level of quality that the strain is being noted for... This isn't a rant its just open talk on a situation that we feel needs to be well understood...and so far it just seems that the scene has dictated the present state of it all...When it should be the Quality of the Cultivars were enjoying...not the 5 lbs pulled off the last bush which will be the next most popular cropper cut... Lets really concentrate on growing fine Cannabis and not sweatin keepin up with the new kids on the blocks... Don't just grow plants..grow with your plants.. Now some old pics of ABN work across the map... FOE20 |
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01-19-2013, 12:46 AM
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more kryptoberries x grape krush would be awesome foe, any chance at those happening?
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01-19-2013, 01:35 AM
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Very well said big bro. Mad props and much respect to ABN for keeping it real and the genetics clean.
 I wish more breeders with access to pure genes felt that way, in stead of being a greedy  .Will you be working with male and female williams wonder? You have any pics of the pi bx? Awesome info like always.  Quote:
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01-19-2013, 02:07 AM
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BITA I'll prob be doing more of those...just to make some but its juts not right in front atm...but its 1 of the only hybrids containing Dabney..so gata do somethin....heres a few pics I had..
yea OldLuck bro...the old local Willies cut here is over 20yrs old....its a staple strain in my home town..us midwest folk aint as back woods as ppl may think..heh...but were mostly farmers for sure.. Im gettin the cut and the seed stock is inline sssc f-2, 3and 4... Ive run them before but didnt have access to the cut atthe time..its still a bitch to get and its always a pita tryin to from these old cats who are dedicated to it..its not a strain that gets passed by cut allot if its the real cut..they lock that lady down...but Im just gana make f-gens but their so inline its the same old pool.. I'll get into Willies details as it happens..no reason to get goin on it till then.. Workin hard...and back to it....keep rollin FOE20 |
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01-19-2013, 02:19 AM
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first pic is a Williams I grew personally...I have stock of sssc and from ndnguy and truly they are very alike...and both are very relative the the old cut hats been round here for yrs...all good stuff..
the 5xBM shows what other Ind phenom types do exist within the 3xBM lines...IMO some very exotic stuff n there to say the least... We get samps of others work as well and like to stay in the groove most of the time..this aint no romparoom..heh... and just so you cats know I wont be over posting "Talk-talk"...Ive been called a turbo Image poster, and all sorts of odd ball crap but fact is its my work.. and the whole scene seems built on kid hype and post count..whats that about...some new wave fad?....wheres all the work?...All talk and not enough show at all for the work we dont see?....oh they got a cut/line they are gana call their own now..how convenient for them...heh... ABN will never be a Kroger of Canna as we give full credit and line disclosure..Another practice I believe not many seed makers can even do for themselves from lack of prior parental line knowledge...but with ABN you can count on all that... but dont think Im not the same as anyone....but I still buy old genetics..but I only know of these as what I consider actual Seed Co breeders.. SacredSeeds, HighBreed, theSeedBank, sssc, then on to MNS, Sensi, BCSC, BCGA, THSeeds, Sagar, SOL, DFlowers, HQS, FlyinDutchman, Magus, Legends, DrAtomic, KCB, DP, Dj, Chimera, etc.....even Gypsy the IC founder here has traveled and dev his own lines and work....He was a MMA cat and Ive seen the strain hunter vids and he looks like a norm healthy guy... But what I love most is these guys let their work sell itself....and it has for a long time its just the internet has its way of making ppl feel like they have had a word when in reality its really nly impacted a very small few at best...anyway... after the mid 90s and early 2k I lost allot of faith in seed co's...But the older the Seed Co the more I do respect the work that was done...actually the older the better indeed.....but in no way are these varieties as easy to manage..and I love that challenge as well... keep rollin (I did not grow these buds...but at times I do get high with a lil help from my friends....thnx to my Fl swamp bruthas!) Last edited by FOE20; 01-19-2013 at 03:24 AM.. |
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01-19-2013, 03:03 AM
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What is the smoke report on the cali o and giesel? Had some giesel that the smell couldn't stay in the bag and had some with hardly any smell. Both where pretty good.
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01-19-2013, 08:48 PM
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Hey Foe420,
Sorry, if this has been answered but I read through the thread and missed it if that was the case. I must say I have very little knowledge on breeding and generations. I am interested in the White Krush F2s on seedbay. 1. What are the expected flower times? 2. I thought I read you sourced the white cut directly from chrome. Is this the same cut used by Rascal, Karma and others? 3. These are f2s I remember reading you enjoy growing f1s. will these show the same vigor? I would imagine f2 are another step in locking down character traits. If so are there any main phenos that may pop up more than others and if so could you briefly describe each? Thanks for you time and hard work. Bobman |
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01-20-2013, 04:04 AM
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OldLuck bro...yea no prob....I'll do all 4 for ya...and you should of seen the plants these buds came from..must say they were wonderfully grown by a great cat MrDogface...(wink)
out of those samps which is a odd combo to rate...from top to bottom.. Giesel - its a wow weed..bout a 9 on power scale for me and Im far from a light weight....but if ya dont got it, get it...heh...almost gave me a headache from the intensity of the stone...not the quality of the grow...it coulda cured a lil more but as you see it was just a few sample buds...fun from friends... Orange Diesel - its nice...not as orange as I was hoping..but def a nice herb giving a new pallet to Diesel...bout a 8 on power these both ranked as day smoke 7 on scale - 70 day Cali-O and Krush were bout the same power...I pref'd the Krush a bit more effect wise.....but the Cali_O was fantastic smoke tho... hey Bobman...sure that will take a sec...but I'll add the basic quick view for ya...and breeding is for breeders...heh.... *1 - flower times range by phenom you get...White for me tuns 8-10wks..pref 10wks.. GKrush runs 9-11wks...so their close but I pref the longer range of all running between 10-11wks pullin Whites at that 10 and GKrush by 11wks...So even mixed phenoms should stay basic between those times of 8-11wks for the total pool... *2 - yes the Krome cut was actually passed direct to a close friend by Krome himself...the cut I hold is the Krome cut....and I actually had to return it to my friends cause of how our lives go ya know... Flower times on Hybrid are 2 fold or nmore as you will get mixed phenoms/expressions but I did say their simple F2" so yea i did Isolate for GKrush based traits in the pairing.. Reason being theWhite has a trick touch to her and can tweek out rather fast..no idea why.. *3 - the vigor in the f-gen pool so far has been mad strong...I feel its the GKrush's power growing ways that are helping theWhite to express more in a work horse way... The White phenms from the f1's were just as tweeky tho...and really I have a Double WhiteKrush line thats a Bx to theWHite and man those White phenoms in that pool are almost more tweeky...so bare that all in mind... and no prob on time and work...Im a workaholic..insomniac..I dont take pharm meds and I dont drink or do hard drugs in any addictive fashion....Im only trying to solve my own problems and if what I do helps...well hell thats great for all of us... I think ppl are takin me more serious than I take myself or the Cannabis scene in whole... I love it..I respect it...Its my passion...but I have other parts of my life that are way more important...like my children first....like my art...my music... Cannabis is a plant used for Celebration...for Natural Medication....and that how ABN uses it all... FOE20 |
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01-22-2013, 04:33 AM
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Allot of folks sem to really want or Need a line or hybrid that just Produces...the 1 thing im not known for is making Production hybrids..or really Indica dom breeds...
But in this case I went out of my way to make a hybrid I feel will satisfy almost any Canna user...in a few depts... but this one is mostly for the Indica lovers tho...So coming from me I felt it had to be abnormal and I didn't want to use just any new pups for the pool... So I went back to the past make it... Would like and hope to introduce a new Hybrid of 2 quite distinct breeds.. our "Mishku" aka 20+yr old Mazar I Sharif Hindu Kush crossed up to the true-Ortega line Ive been workin for a while now... But we'll have the Ortega also being worked for a IBL using its original parent line whic is in process now.. so..This is a new hybrid Ive decided to call it what a Indica fan would always ask for....Were simply calling it...."More"... Maz x Ortega....or what was being considered as the hybrid Martega... But "More" will be a distinct selection I'll be making soon, as Im testing the off spring now...Just lil pups atm but as seen..but their gana be fat lil ladies... Also you hard core ServerFund snipers I'll be sending in some of these soon for the IC-420-Cup fund.. Will be limited packs and no#s so hope you all dig them and much thnx to Clarence for moving the RiddlerMix to a lower cost and more effective spot... These won;t be avail for a few wks but will be sent in soon as we can... Kahili Web (Island bred - HawWebInd/DFoot pool) x Ortega 3xBMoonshine x Ortega super Limited --- p98 BubbaKush x Ortega DjShort BBerry Heirloom x Ortega Also will be opening up my stock box and making more super limited very low released hybrid from some older wonderful growers/breeders/seed co's...including Clips ndnguy DaFlyinHawaiian and more....... and then in true Monty Python fashion...get ready for something completely different.... cause after this Im working some serious Sativas...enjoy folks... FOE20 |
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