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Old 09-03-2012, 12:51 AM #1
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CannaVenture : Thesis on Life.


Whats up IC....Firstly... I want to Thank, all of The Members here at ICM, That bought and supported the recent CannaVenture Seeds Drop @ SeedBay.


I know there are a few members here, That are pissed because they did not score exactly what they were shooting for. While I understand, why some members feel this way, I'd like to add, No one person, Was Ever promised a pack of Anything from This Drop. I always tried to make it Very clear, That The GSC clone x Fire OG BX packs, were going to be Very Limited...And the main purpose of making these seeds, Was to find a nice Male, to use in Upcoming projects.


In My Perfect World... Literally, Every single seed, Will produce the growers “Holy Grail”... Everyone would be totally happy...All The Time.....


.......Unfortunately.... The CannaWorld, is Not a “Perfect World”....


Its really Hard, more like Impossible, To make Thousands of people happy 100% of the time. Some people complain about The Limited Edition gear, Not being “Tested”..... Then, on the flip.. You have people complaining, when we decide to Selectively Work certain genetics, before we release them to The Public....
...kind of an Impossible situation....


Trust me Fellas...I absolutely apologize, To Everyone that did not score exactly what they wanted... I really, Really wish, I had 1000 packs of GS Cookie clone x Fire OG BX seeds to Release. Of course I do.. and it Sucks I dont.... I was not planning on doing this, But, We will take The Keeper Male we find out of The GS Cookies x Fire OG BX seeds, and will do a BX back to The GS Cookies clone...And will release that Hybrid in The Next Drop....Just a few months away. ..At the same time, We will make some Cherry Pie x GSC/Fire seeds, That will be released in The same exact Drop....Plus some other cool shit too.




I wanted to keep a good amount of The GSC clone x Fire OG BX seeds, for myself / CannaVenture to look through, and Hopefully find, suitable Males to use in future projects.... Specifically, but Not limited too...Cherry Pie clone x GSC clone x Fire OG BX Project.....Possibly a GS Cookie BX hybrid....Plus another Extremely nice project, That I will talk about in the near future. .Finding an Elite GSC x Fire male, IMO, Will take more than 2 or 3 packs.. While no Doubt, The GSC x Fire , Will provide,, some High Quality keepers... The down side to GSC x Fire Limited Edition Seeds, Is, there will be ALOT of genetic Diversity, more so than just about any other Limited Edition gear, Ive Ever Released.


There are a few reason, I decided to use The Arcata TrainWreck BX2 male, With The GSC clone, to make The GSC clone x Arcata TrainWreck BX2 Limited Edition hybrid.


The TW male, matched up, Almost Perfectly with the GSC clone, in the following ways.


Plant Structure : Node spacing / Stretch / Flower to Leaf ratio


Flower Structure : Flower Density / The density of The resulting 1st generation phenos, Was a huge sticking point for me... One of The characteristics of The GS Cookies clone, is Extremely dense flowers, from start to end, some of the densest Flowers.. Ive ever seen. . The Arcata TrainWreck BX2 male used, Was just as dense.., and will help to keep the majority of The phenos just as Dense. ….


Flower Time : Both parents, have an almost Identical flowering Time....


Yield : Both parents, Grown in stable environments, Will have a similar Yield.


Taste / Smell : IMO, The Arcata TrainWreck BX2 male, Will add to or help to keep The unique “Lime” and/or “OG with a Twist” type taste / smell, That launched The GS Cookie clone to the top of The “Most Hyped” clone Ever list.... This unique characteristic, IMO, NEEDS to be Expressed in the resulting progeny (generation)....The Arcata TrainWreck BX2 male, IMO, Will help to Keep, or build on this unique flavor...
Maintaining The Flower Density and Keeping, or building on The Taste / Smell, That made The GS Cookie clone, So sought after... Both of those Characteristics , Were IMO, The Most Important details, to Try and maintain in The subsequent generations...


Its also my opinion, That “OG's” and “TrainWreck” genetics, Blend well together, In terms of Yield... FloweringTimes... Plant Structure.... Flower Structure....Potentcy.....Smel l.... Taste....Etc.


I honestly believe, that The GS Cookie clone x Arcata TrainWreck BX2 Limited Edition hybrid, pack for pack, Will be Better than The GSC clone x Fire OG BX hybrid. The Cookie x TrainWreck hybrid, Due to The amount of generations this specific TWBX2 male has been worked, will have less Genetic drift, and will be a little bit more stable out The gate. IMO, The Quality Keeper Phenos, found in just 1 pack of The TWBX2 hybrid, Will take 2 Maybe 3 packs of The Cookie x Fire hybrid to find Keepers of The Same Quality. Dont get me wrong.. The Cookie x Fire gear, WILL provide Elite Keepers, But Pack for Pack, The TWBX2 packs, Will provide Higher Quality phenos in every pack....


*** To All The folks that want to run GS Cookie genetics, and did not score The GSC x Fire packs.... Try The GSC clone x Arcata TrainWreck BX2 hybrid, To hold you over till The GSC BX seeds are released in The Next CVS Drop , Im more than Confident, That The “Cookie Wreck” genetics, Will make Everyone extremely Happy, and Will provide, “Elite” and unique Keepers*** *** We DO have more GS Cookie x Arcata TrainWreck BX2 packs available...We ended up with a total of 80 “Cookie Wreck” packs....And still have more in stock if anyone wants them....

I also, Want to make this clear... We absolutely have worked, stable genetics under The “Base Line” category... Some of our Base Lines, have been selectively worked for years, in some cases, Hundreds and even Thousands of seeds have been germed and chosen from, to find Parent Stock...






The “Limited Edition” gear , Is NOT a “Base Line”, and Not intended to be. . The main reason I decided to start releasing Limited Edition genetics, Is mainly a way to get proven, “Elite” clones /cuts/genetics into the Hands of Growers that do not live in Medical States..or growers that do not have access to supposed “Elite' genetics. These Limited Edition hybrids, Are exactly what I intended them to be, Which is, High Quality Clone onlies or High Quality Cuts, and My Keeper Males used to Pollinate those clones/cuts. While the majority of All my Keeper males, where found in Worked genetics, and in some cases, Those males, have been used to create CVS Base lines. Most of The Limited Edition hybrids, are just that.....Limited Edition genetics, With plans to Only Release, 1 time. Finding parent dominating phenos, as well as Unique, High Quality hybrid phenos, that display characteristics from both parents used to make, That specific Limited Edition hybrid......






I Promise.. We WILL make a GS Cookie clone BX from The Cookie x Fire gear.... I can not say right now, How many seeds we will get, but, It is my Goal, to get Atleast 50 to 100 packs, Possibly more....And, Those seeds, Will get released, in the very next drop....Should NOT be later than Christmas....Hopefully, more like November....


***To a few Members, That missed out on The GSC x Fire OG BX gear..... IF possible.. I Am Willing to try and come up with a way to make some of you happy and content, Till The GSC BX seeds are ready***


.....We have a lot of Great Projects coming up....That we are working on, and other projects, We are about to start working on.. Im ALWAYS looking for, Members, that have a history of documenting quality grows in an online journal..


I Really want to have this gear, properly documented, here on ICM, in the CannaVenture Seeds Forum...


BASE LINES
Diesel Fire
Purkle Berry (Urkle clone x Purple Berry BX)
Electric Larry land
Grapefruit d-Lite
Sour Double Kush BX2
Chameleon Kush (Chem D clone xAlien Kush F2)
Garlic Breath


Limited Edition
GS Cookie clone x Arcata TrainWreck BX2
BlackBerry Kush clone x Arcata TrainWreck BX2
Lavender cut x Jazz Berry Jam
Lemon Skunk clone x Arcata TrainWreck BX2
LA Affie clone x Fire OG BX
Fire OG clone x Arcata trainWreck BX2
MVTF Alpha clone x LA Affie BX


And there are a few more.. Im Always looking for Quality Growers to properly document CannaVenture Seed gear.




I hope this, explains some things, and hopefully, it will help some people relax a little....We WILL do our Best to look out for anyone that deserves it. Just give us a chance before hitting “enter” on the death threats....






-CV

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Old 09-03-2012, 01:09 AM #2
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dont sweat it. plenty of seeds to offer people. im sure there is something for everyone regardless.
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:18 AM #3
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Very informative and well written as always Brotha!!

We can try and make everyone happy but in the end its up to wether or not they just have it set in their mind that they arent going to be happy no matter what or feel they have something to prove. Our goal is definitely to provide everyone with top notch quality genetics. As CV has stated many many times and as has others from the CV crew its clearly stated the LIMITED RELEASE lines are untested lines released because they are high sought after strains and are requested we release them without taking the time to stabilize or test them first. I have understood that before I ever teamed up with CannaVenture so I am not understanding why some people insist on acting as though we are trying to hide something. There are going to be plans to stabilize some of the limited releases that are worth working with and those will be tested extensively to ensure we know exactly what the end produce will be as we do with our current Base Lines.

And this lie being passed around that we dont have experience with our mothers or fathers we use in our crosses is absolute slander and will be taken seriously. We have run through tons of seeds to find what we consider elites or keepers or we obtain elite clone only strains from the source or someone who can prove it is legit. We also grow them out to confirm. Unfortunately we are posting info on multiple sites and soon our own and we dont always have time to post pictures of them all but we will do our best to do so from now on.

I always piss people off but I am going to say it anyways, but people always blaming breeders for their problems with their strains or their germ rates..... EVER HEARD OF GROWER ERROR??? I find that to be the case in most instances. I have had great results with strains that most others couldnt even get 1 or 2 to germ. I had a higher F:M Ratio as well and it was 8+ yr old seed stock on top of it.
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:23 AM #4
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:25 AM #5
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im bout to start my j b j, straw d x p b , and my freebie mix i got
i completely missed the drop was in between a move this whole week wit no internet using wifi wherever i could and missed it on the tude. def wanted the e l l the bull rider x pck and the affix hybrid but i missed em all....
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:28 AM #6
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:35 AM #7
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So your saying your Arcata Trainwreck bx 2's yield the same as GSC? Are you sure? Cause Trainwreck is a beast and GSC is one of the lowest yielding strains I've seen.

Either way sounds interesting. Good luck.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:44 AM #8
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Excited to read your thoughts on the GSC crossings you made. Thought GSC x Fire OG would have been the boss out of the two made available. I'm even more pleased to read about the reasoning behind your limited drops. I know here in Colorado there are lots of good things to be found, but it's pretty rare to see some of the genetics people on the west coast enjoy on a store shelf. Glad I got a GSCxTW and I will make sure to document the grow just to spread the love sir, thanks!
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:51 AM #9
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Good Read..If no one is hating then you are not doing a good enough job..

Keep up the good work fellas!!
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:18 AM #10
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so, how do i get my hands on the gsc x trainwreck? I missed out on everything i wanted all together chem bx3,gsc x trainwreck,blackberry kushx twreck and pre 98 bubba x fire og from the last drop
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