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Old 05-27-2006, 05:58 AM #11
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Thumbs up Excellent advice G. Potter, thanks mucho for the information...


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Arc Fault Circuit Interrupters (AFCIs)

Understanding the Problem of Arc Faults and House Fires
According to the Consumer Products Safety Commission (CPSC), approximately 40,000 fires are caused annually by problems with home electrical wiring.
For the last five years, electrical wiring systems have been one of the leading causes of fire deaths, claiming between 260 and 380 lives per year and costing more than $650 million annually.
In 1998, according to the latest statistics released by the CPSC, fire originating in the electrical distribution system accounted for more than 10 percent of all home fires.
Many times the culprit is an arc fault.

What is an Arc Fault?

An arc is a discharge of electric current across a gap.
Many of us have seen an arc such as from an arc welder or sparks from a downed power line.
An arc fault is an unintended arc flowing through an unintentional path.


Common causes for arc faults in a house are:

* Loose or improper connections, such as electrical wires to outlets or switches
* Frayed or ruptured appliance or extension cords
* Pinched or pierced wire insulation, such as a wire inside a wall nipped by a nail or screw or a chair leg setting on an extension cord
* Cracked wire insulation stemming from age, heat, corrosion or bending stress
* Overheated wire or cords
* Damaged electrical appliances
* Wires or cords touching vibrating metal
* Electrical wire insulation chewed by rodents

When an arc fault occurs inside the walls or ceiling, or inside an electrical appliance, temperatures can exceed 10,000° F. Nearby combustibles like wood studs or insulation can be ignited by an electrical arc.



Fortunately, companies have developed arc fault circuit interrupters (AFCI) to help avoid fires caused by arc faults. They look and work just like conventional circuit breakers and fit into electrical panels in the same way. But they provide additional protection against arc faults.

Conventional circuit breakers "trip" if an overload or short circuit is detected, which shuts off the electrical power. They protect against overloads and short circuits with thermal and magnetic protection, respectively.

AFCIs, however, not only protect against overloads and short circuits, they can also electronically sense arcing and "trip."
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I learned how to work with sheetrock when i was in carpentry. I can hang it and tape it.

My cabinet is made totally out of sheetrock. Real easy to cut and seal air tight compared to plywood and you can lay a red hot HPS bulb right against the wall for days on end and all it will do is get warm.
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Great post, good info.

Another point about fans is that when buying one you should buy one with a thermal cutoff built in. Most Dayton's have this built in. Basically if the temps get too high then the fan shuts off.

Another thing you can use to stop a fire once it breaks out is an engine fire extinguisher made for boats. These are completely self contained, require no power, and leave no residue. If the temp gets too high (175F) they are triggered and put out any fire by starving it of o2. These are rated by cubic feet of space you are trying to protect. I know of at least one cabinet grower who has installed one of these. Here's a link.

https://www.fireboy-xintex.com/auto_only.htm

These would be as good as a sprinkler system without requiring plumbing and extensive mods to the house. When you move to a new grow you just bring it with you.
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Loving all these ideas...sheetrock construction of cabinets...

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Another point about fans is that when buying one you should buy one with a thermal cutoff built in. Most Dayton's have this built in. Basically if the temps get too high then the fan shuts off.

Another thing you can use to stop a fire once it breaks out is an engine fire extinguisher made for boats. These are completely self contained, require no power, and leave no residue. If the temp gets too high (175F) they are triggered and put out any fire by starving it of o2. These are rated by cubic feet of space you are trying to protect. I know of at least one cabinet grower who has installed one of these.
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The CG2 Series fire extinguishers (Marine safety systems) have an automatic heat-activated discharge at 175° F (79° C).

A control panel indicator lamp and pressure gauge provide "charge / discharge" system-status.
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Diesel-powered craft must also install the Automatic Engine Shutdown System.

* USCG and FM approved.
* Actuation temperature: 175° F (79° C)
* Models protecting enclosures from 25 cubic feet (.71 cubic meters) through 600 cubic feet (17 cubic meters) may be installed vertically or horizontally.
* Models protecting 650 cubic feet (18.4 cubic meters) through 1000 cubic feet (28.3 cubic meters) may be installed vertically or tipped to 60° off horizontal (30° off perpendicular).
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man this is an awsome thread big ups to the one whom strated this this is exactly what i ahve been looking for an wondering about.
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Interesting system IM.

A system such as that would do wonders in my grow environment.

Fortunately, My grow is in an out building so if a fire should break out is would not pose a danger to any persons and the lose would the 12'X12' structure and the cab and other articles inside.

More then the lose would the explantation to the F.D, police. Neighbors.

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I like the heat activate fire extungisher, very ingenious and if I can find one small enough it will be going into my cabinet.
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Found em at www.shipstore.com/SS/HTML/COV/00-INDEX-COV.html
they range from 25CFT ($173) up to 900CFT (1G)........Shit I just read that they won't ship it.....
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I like the heat activate fire extungisher, very ingenious and if I can find one small enough it will be going into my cabinet.

I was turned onto this same idea about 2 years ago buy a grower named Pipe Dream Believer and have had on ever since, they can be a little pricey but can you really put a price on safety? You can find these unit's at most boating stores(boating USA, West Marine) or on line I can't stress enough how important fire safety is since most people I have heard of getting busted for growing get caught because there house/apt caught fire. Try explaining to your insurance company or Land Lord that the fire was caused because you were growing

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