[Babombeez]

Originally Posted by BugJar

I have heard about frass carrying some nasty buggers.

I will continue to avoid it

LOL.

You have "HEARD" frass carries nasty buggers??? So you have never tried it for YOUR SELF?

C'mon, man. Stop being so close-minded.

Originally Posted by bigshrimp

Put it in the soil or run it through the worm bin. Poo and dead bugs need to be decomposed before applying to plants.

Making teas and foliaring seems like it could transmit pathogens easily.

The above plants in the pics were grown with Insect Frass from Organic Nutrients... See any nasty little buggers in there? Or any evidence of pathogens? I don't have a single fungus gnat... Or speck of Powdery Mildew... or Botritis...

~beez

[W89]

Nice what are they?

[Babombeez]

Originally Posted by W89

Nice what are they?

Kryptonite (Killer Queen x The Purps)

One thing I would like to add here is that we have noticed that Insect Frass increases the size/length of the trichome stalk and the gland head, thus increasing the amount of cannabinoids in the final product. Before using the Insect Frass, a good friend of mine who is a great grower would only get 4-5 grams of wax from running an ounce of trim. Now, he gets 8-10 grams of wax per ounce when running the same strain grown with Insect Frass! This is empirical proof that Insect Frass makes the plant produce larger and more prolific trichomes in order to "protect" itself from a perceived insect invasion, except there are no insects attacking the plant, it's just the chitin present in the Frass.

~beez

[invocation]

I looked up the price on this stuff and it's insane. I'll stick with my worm castings and crab for a buck a pound. I'd try it but that price is absurd.


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[bigshrimp]

Sorry i only buy overpriced bs if it has fancy packaging or a pretty bottle...

[invocation]

That's with 1$ a pound ewc and crab.

[all natural]

Originally Posted by Babombeez

Kryptonite (Killer Queen x The Purps)

One thing I would like to add here is that we have noticed that Insect Frass increases the size/length of the trichome stalk and the gland head, thus increasing the amount of cannabinoids in the final product. Before using the Insect Frass, a good friend of mine who is a great grower would only get 4-5 grams of wax from running an ounce of trim. Now, he gets 8-10 grams of wax per ounce when running the same strain grown with Insect Frass! This is empirical proof that Insect Frass makes the plant produce larger and more prolific trichomes in order to "protect" itself from a perceived insect invasion, except there are no insects attacking the plant, it's just the chitin present in the Frass.

~beez

this is anecdotal. I have some frass still and have been feeding it to my worms. I used it straight in my soil and top dressed before this and saw no noticeable improvements in my plants from what I was doing before. Maybe it does provide chitin maybe it doesnt, but it's not some super ingredient that will change your life. It always bugs me when people claim certain things make their trichomes grow bigger and fatter. it would be really hard to measure a trichome to be sure.

[Babombeez]

Invocation -- that buds looks sweet and frosty. Chitin, which occurs naturally in crab meal (and other crustaceans), stimulates the plants immune response. The only difference between the crustacean derived chitin and the chitin occurring in insect frass is that the latter does not need to be composted first; in other words, the chitin is readily available in insect frass. I am not saying change a damn thing, and that pic looks great. As far as $1 a pound, cool! I am into cheap!

Originally Posted by all natural

this is anecdotal. I have some frass still and have been feeding it to my worms. I used it straight in my soil and top dressed before this and saw no noticeable improvements in my plants from what I was doing before. Maybe it does provide chitin maybe it doesnt, but it's not some super ingredient that will change your life. It always bugs me when people claim certain things make their trichomes grow bigger and fatter. it would be really hard to measure a trichome to be sure.

all natural-- Sure it's anecdotal, but like I said, after using the Frass we pulled almost twice the amount of wax from the same strain as before. And it does make the trichs grow larger, at least in my experience. I'm not running out and telling people to buy the stuff, just stating my experience with Insect Frass. Also, in your initial post you say you bought a HALF POUND of Insect Frass. Have you ever bought more and used it to its full strength application, 1/2 cup per gallon? How much did you top-dress each plant, and in what size container were they? Did you PRE-MIX the Insect Frass???


~beez


~beez

Originally Posted by Babombeez

LOL.

You have "HEARD" frass carries nasty buggers??? So you have never tried it for YOUR SELF?

I have heard this from several people.

people do talk smack so maybe it was wrong of me to assume it is true

as far as not having bugs, powder or mold...did you have them before?

If not I heard AN is releasing a Lion repellent... see what I am saying?

Did you see improvement with strains you had already worked with?

the reality for me is that @ 10$ a pound locally I would sooner consider farming my own insects just for the frass

if it were less expensive I would consider testing with it. If I hadn't heard about bugs I would bare the expense but factoring both I can't do it

If it works for you I am happy for you

[Bennyweed1]

Well I hate to start a thread this way but I am dont know where to begin.

Inside my worm bin, when every I add a fresh load of material, like MMJ leaves, veggie scraps, ext.....I get a heavy formation of tiny tiny white bugs. At first I didnt realize they were even bugs, they barely move but sure enough they are. They are probably about the size of a 1/16 grain of rice.

Ill try to get pictures later but honestly they are to small for my camera.

Start throwing names out there so I can google it and reference the two. I just dont know how to ID them.