600w Blumats with 3 Plants in Turface/Perlite - Vertical / Colosseum Growing - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

catman · 07-13-2012, 07:59 PM

Whats up ICMAG-vert-crew?

This grow is similar to my previous one so I'll just go over the changes.

Added 9K BTU portable AC - It was my only option. It does have auto-restart and I have a cheap $40 temp controller on the way. My temps will be far more consistent than last time with lows into 70s and highs up to 77 so far when it can't keep up with 100F+. It's sitting a few foot off the floor and there is a big floor fan assisting with it's intake.

On the other side of the AC is a whole-home humidifier and instead of filling up the small white tank on the right three times a day, I just let it sit in a rubbermaid. The climate here is extremely dry and with the AC going non-stop I can't keep my RH above 25% during the day time. In my previous thread I arrogantly ignored the advice from others about the need for a humidifier so I'd like to specially thank DHFred because he's been such an asset to our community and has even been able to through my dense head. Come time to flower at night, bigger plants, and with my temp controller, I should be able to keep my RH 50-65%. So, exhaust air is mixed with the fresh cold air, floor fan to move things around, and only intakes on one side of the tent to pull in the humid air. Tossed in a pic of how I check my canopy temps which are usually around 75F.

catman · 07-13-2012, 08:00 PM

I have my scrubber and fan centered now; hoping for better air flow and I shouldn't need the vertical space I lost. Going to try a small muffin to avoid wind burn that I've had in the past.

Each 5 gal pail has 2 Blumat Maxis fed from a 5 gal res. The top and bottom few inches of the buckets are entirely Turface, while the middle is a split mix with Perlite.

Plants are transplants vegging 24/7 from seed with the bulb dimmed to 360w. I have no idea what the strains are I'm now using FoxFarm's Grow Big for Hydro and no more Big Bloom.

catman · 07-13-2012, 08:01 PM

This first plant was transplanted traditionally and I'm not sure if she's just vigorous or the other two are behind. Standing less than a foot tall and over two feet weed.

These other two were transplanted with their root mass tilted on it's side.

Fuzzy pipe cleaners to LST. I've been doing a little defoliating and would appreciate if anyone has any comments on how I'm training the plants. Hell, any comments or questions, whatever, are much appreciated...otherwise, it's on with the show!

bobblehead · 07-13-2012, 08:24 PM

I want to know more about the blumats in the turface/perlite mix. Is there a drain in the bucket? Or is it just a bucket of perlite/turface? Does the blumat operate like it would in dirt or coco? I'm intrigued. SRGB has been suggesting I get away from coco and try some turface MVP, but I'm having trouble finding it. I'm going to have to drive a bit to get some and I need to get some more info before I become more invested.

Mister_D · 07-13-2012, 09:19 PM

I also want to know if the blumat operates the same as it would in dirt or coco? How long have you been using the blumats in this mix? Very interesting setup you've got here catman, i'm subbed for the show

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catman · 07-13-2012, 09:30 PM

No drain. 5 gals have the PPK 6x1.5'' tailpiece so they need to sit on top of something. I believe it operates the same way in principle. Just went 10 days while I was away.

To set it up I open the valves up and fill the entire bottom bucket. Water will actually seep further up into the bucket's media to a point before it will leak out on to the floor. When the medium is saturated I turned the valves down until they are dripping a small amount and I'll dump the bottom bucket out. I wait a little bit for more water to drain and then I monitor the run off by seeing through the white pails and adjust valves accordingly. I make it so I error on the side of adding too much water to find the sweet spot. The way I figure, I should always see wet spots on the turface next to the drip lines.

I got the turface from a landscaping company. I also should mention that I screen out the smallest particles of it and my perlite. I'm pretty sure all there is no to know is on the forum here somewhere, but just let me know if you're wondering about anything specific.

This is my first go at it Mister_D and even if I can't pull it off, I've tried really hard to see why someone couldn't and I can not.

cyat · 07-13-2012, 10:48 PM

nice plants... training is on point too!

heady blunts · 07-13-2012, 11:32 PM

Maj.Cottonmouth · 07-14-2012, 12:06 AM

Subbed, looks like a great show.

mcfly420 · 07-14-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

and try some turface MVP, but I'm having trouble finding it.

Diamond Pro and Pros Choice might be some Turface alternatives

07-13-2012, 07:59 PM	#1
catman half cat half man half baked Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cypress Hill Posts: 1,222	600w Blumats with 3 Plants in Turface/Perlite Whats up ICMAG-vert-crew? This grow is similar to my previous one so I'll just go over the changes. Added 9K BTU portable AC - It was my only option. It does have auto-restart and I have a cheap $40 temp controller on the way. My temps will be far more consistent than last time with lows into 70s and highs up to 77 so far when it can't keep up with 100F+. It's sitting a few foot off the floor and there is a big floor fan assisting with it's intake. On the other side of the AC is a whole-home humidifier and instead of filling up the small white tank on the right three times a day, I just let it sit in a rubbermaid. The climate here is extremely dry and with the AC going non-stop I can't keep my RH above 25% during the day time. In my previous thread I arrogantly ignored the advice from others about the need for a humidifier so I'd like to specially thank DHFred because he's been such an asset to our community and has even been able to through my dense head. Come time to flower at night, bigger plants, and with my temp controller, I should be able to keep my RH 50-65%. So, exhaust air is mixed with the fresh cold air, floor fan to move things around, and only intakes on one side of the tent to pull in the humid air. Tossed in a pic of how I check my canopy temps which are usually around 75F. __________________ 600w Round 2 with Blumats 600w Vertical 4x4 Tent Merlin's Magic Test Grow
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07-13-2012, 08:00 PM	#2
catman half cat half man half baked Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cypress Hill Posts: 1,222	I have my scrubber and fan centered now; hoping for better air flow and I shouldn't need the vertical space I lost. Going to try a small muffin to avoid wind burn that I've had in the past. Each 5 gal pail has 2 Blumat Maxis fed from a 5 gal res. The top and bottom few inches of the buckets are entirely Turface, while the middle is a split mix with Perlite. Plants are transplants vegging 24/7 from seed with the bulb dimmed to 360w. I have no idea what the strains are I'm now using FoxFarm's Grow Big for Hydro and no more Big Bloom. __________________ 600w Round 2 with Blumats 600w Vertical 4x4 Tent Merlin's Magic Test Grow
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07-13-2012, 08:01 PM	#3
catman half cat half man half baked Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cypress Hill Posts: 1,222	This first plant was transplanted traditionally and I'm not sure if she's just vigorous or the other two are behind. Standing less than a foot tall and over two feet weed. These other two were transplanted with their root mass tilted on it's side. Fuzzy pipe cleaners to LST. I've been doing a little defoliating and would appreciate if anyone has any comments on how I'm training the plants. Hell, any comments or questions, whatever, are much appreciated...otherwise, it's on with the show! __________________ 600w Round 2 with Blumats 600w Vertical 4x4 Tent Merlin's Magic Test Grow
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07-13-2012, 08:24 PM	#4
bobblehead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,300	I want to know more about the blumats in the turface/perlite mix. Is there a drain in the bucket? Or is it just a bucket of perlite/turface? Does the blumat operate like it would in dirt or coco? I'm intrigued. SRGB has been suggesting I get away from coco and try some turface MVP, but I'm having trouble finding it. I'm going to have to drive a bit to get some and I need to get some more info before I become more invested. __________________ bobblehead's organic bedroom of high brix gardening
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07-13-2012, 09:19 PM	#5
Mister_D Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,381	I also want to know if the blumat operates the same as it would in dirt or coco? How long have you been using the blumats in this mix? Very interesting setup you've got here catman, i'm subbed for the show . __________________ Satori F2 Vert Grow (Completed) https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=213034 D's Vertical Redemption (Completed) https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....57#post4840157 D's Gone Hunting (In limbo) https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....=1#post5941311 Cannafornia Seeds Caliente Kong & Alaskan Thunder Kong Test Thread (Completed) https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....15#post6280215 D's DIY Automated Vertical Feed and Drain System https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....90#post6323290 ""Get It Fucking Done. It’s the truth, it’s the one thing you learn real fast in life is that nobody gives a fucking shit about excuses and the sooner you learn that nobody really gives a fuck about you, that you need to get off your ass and make shit happen then the better off everyone will be""". - Zakk Wylde
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07-13-2012, 09:30 PM	#6
catman half cat half man half baked Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cypress Hill Posts: 1,222	No drain. 5 gals have the PPK 6x1.5'' tailpiece so they need to sit on top of something. I believe it operates the same way in principle. Just went 10 days while I was away. To set it up I open the valves up and fill the entire bottom bucket. Water will actually seep further up into the bucket's media to a point before it will leak out on to the floor. When the medium is saturated I turned the valves down until they are dripping a small amount and I'll dump the bottom bucket out. I wait a little bit for more water to drain and then I monitor the run off by seeing through the white pails and adjust valves accordingly. I make it so I error on the side of adding too much water to find the sweet spot. The way I figure, I should always see wet spots on the turface next to the drip lines. I got the turface from a landscaping company. I also should mention that I screen out the smallest particles of it and my perlite. I'm pretty sure all there is no to know is on the forum here somewhere, but just let me know if you're wondering about anything specific. This is my first go at it Mister_D and even if I can't pull it off, I've tried really hard to see why someone couldn't and I can not. __________________ 600w Round 2 with Blumats 600w Vertical 4x4 Tent Merlin's Magic Test Grow
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07-13-2012, 10:48 PM	#7
cyat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,941	nice plants... training is on point too!
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