[Dysnomia]

Greetings ICMAG!

I present you yet another LED grow. This one will be far from perfect though... It is summertime and due to various other reasons I can only give minimal attention to this grow.

My grow space is roughly 1.2m x 0.45m lit only by 70W of LED. 4 plants - 2 CDSD from Rez and 2 Casey Jones F3 that were freebies on the bay some time ago. (3 100% females so far, still cannot tell for one CDSD). Temperatures are a bit lowish in the 21-23(4) range and very high relative humidity (60-80%). Ventilation is inadequate.

Despite environment being far from perfect the plants don't really seem to mind it that much, yet. I've been vegging them since may and they are in fact about 2-3 weeks overvegged. Also I didn't manage to SCROG so this will probably big the biggest factor affecting yield. I hope I've still got a decent enough canopy to make it work.

Enough of the rambling, let's get to the good stuff.

CDSD #1, I'm hoping this will be the best plant of the bunch. I foresee some nice floppy hopefully trichome covered sour-s. Very nice vigour but really could have use a scrog to support the floppy limbs. This one's a 100% female.


This is the one that doesn't want to show its sex. Very floppy with a bit less vigour. I'm not going to judge a book by the cover though, let's hope it can surprise.


Casey Jones #1, the biggest of the bunch. outvegged them all which was problematic. She received some heavy bending and supercropping, I hope she doesn't stretch too much.


Casey Jones #2, solid plant, much shorter than the other CJ. This one showed trichomes on growth tips while vegging! Sturdy plant for sure.


Can't have a thread without a group shot! As you can see the canopy is more-or-less manageable. Definitely need to scrog in order to max yields though. It is now day 2 of 12/12.


I dare not to speculate on the yield but considering that they have been vegged for quite some time but lets just say i would be pretty disappointed if I don't hit at least 0,8g/W.

I probably won't be able to update till late July but I wanted to get the ball rolling. Lets see what this light is capable of!

PS! sorry for the shitty quality of the images, the 144kb rule now on IC is a real bummer. Also they shouldn't include emoticons in the 5 image rule...

Regards,
Dysnomia

[#1cheesebuds]

I deff wanna watch this one.

[Dr 4 four]

I can't wait to see the jungle that thing produces. With the minimal attention that it will be getting, you may wanna bring a machete. lol I'm interested to see how it's going to turn out since I've only seen the UFO and square/rectangular LED setups.

[Dysnomia]

Welcome aboard!

The layout of the LEDs was the main thing that drove me towards buying this lamp. Also the mrX threads and the reported g/W he was supposedly getting. Possibly a little over-rated but it certainly got me interested.

g/W as a unit for measuring efficiency deserves a whole post for itself though. I think g/kWh is the most appropriate in terms of measuring efficiency or productiveness. Nevertheless g/w is also important to get a sense of what is typically capable per grow for a specific type of light(ing) (e.g you can typically expect 0,5-1 g/W for HPS depening on the skills/genetics/method but perhaps 0,5-1,5 g/W with the higher end LEDs). This is especially important for micro growers who are typically heavily focused towards stealth and wish to keep the running W (not necessarily the kWh due to longer veg to scrog/train) as low as possible to meet the goal.


I actually did a few autoflowers under the lamp to give it a quick test run before these were vegged/sexed and they did fairly well. I had 3 plants that gave me about 40g in total. But those were autoflowers and the canopy/size was never there.

The biggest in the bunch, yielded around 20g dry



Oh, and by the way I saw the first pistils on the fourth plant as well so it seems we're all set up with 4 females ready to present their flowers. It's funny this fourth plant. It has had small beginning of preflowers for a while now but they sort of stopped development. No pistils emerged and they didn't start to hang like stamen usually do either. Luckily now I can spot the first tiny pistils. It's funny because the Caseys showed sex just after about 30 days in veg but this one is a very late shower. I also exhibited the same trait with Galadriels (C99 x SD) I ran last summer, so perhaps it's a feature of the Sour family? Who knows, genetics is quite a bit more complicated than one might expect.


Regards,
Dysnomia

[MrCopyZ]

Is that your dry weight? are they dense nugs? they sure look nice.

[Dysnomia]

Yes, that was the dry weight. The buds were fairly dense, considering I especially selected towards the loose (mold resistant) phenotypes for the F2-s since my main focus with these autoflowers is outdoors. Living far from the equator means that autoflowers are pretty much the only way to go...


In the mean time I've cleaned up the undersides and the insides, leveled the canopy once more and now they will be on their own for a few weeks besides watering. LED really surprised me in this regard, I tend to water at least half as often compared to being under a 250W HPS - once every week to even 9 days!


The first week of 12/12 is coming to an end and things haven't changed drastically. The first signs of bud formation are there on the Caseys and the CDSD-s continue stretching. I cannot wait to see how they turn out!



Regards,
Dysnomia

[Dysnomia]

It has been a while!

We are now approximately 3½ weeks into 12/12 and things are shaping up pretty well!

The Casey's have definitely outperformed the CDSD-s despite being F3-s. One of them is a freaking beast and I'm sure the other one would have been as well given the same size container. The more promising CDSD is very nice also however the really stretchy one is slowly turning into a runt. Way too floppy and stretchy with hardly any bud formation yet. I havent tossed it yet tho just in case it happens to be something otherwordly and for some reason manages to surprise me.

I would have never imagined 70W could handle these plants so well...

But I'll rather let the photos talk for themselves.

First of all let's get the runt out of the way. CDSD by REZ, the lanky pheno. I have never experienced such stretch... I didn't even bother taking her out of the cab


Luckily we have a better specimen of this variety. It's still pretty floppy but definitely not as bad. Bud formation seems on track as well. Some frost already appearing and I'm sure the buds will filll in quite a bit. Definitely would be a monster under a bigger light.


The main cola





Now I present you the caseys. Superb vigor, relatively fast bud production considering genetics, superb frost already!



Since ICMAG limits to 5 pics per post now, this will be the end of part 1.

[Dysnomia]

Did I mention trichomes?



The caseys once more


This is the cab as of now. it's gonna be a tight fit and I'm troubled by high humidity. Not an issue yet but the end of flowering is gonna be troubling. Humidity is howering between 70-80% RH, however the temps are ~22'C too which brings it up.



I'm hoping for an oz off the big casey and perhaps the good CDSD as well. Perhaps around 20g from the smaller casey and nothing from the runt. What do you reckon?


Regards,
Dysnomia

[JHerbz]

i reckon i cant guess how much you'll get but i can guess you're gonna have some frosty nug

looks good man, i really like that trichome build up. wonder how my CFL's will compare at 36 days.

Peace!

[spiralofeyes]

Nice set-up and genetics,I'll be tagging along.