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Old 06-28-2012, 01:12 PM #1
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Arrow feeding schedule for outdoors pots

i could use some help with feeding schedule
im running for the first time in 20 years an outdoor crop
the plants are in a 27L pots with peat moss and plenty of sun,
which is doing a great job evaporating liquids;
my problem is the feed regiment and possibly the recipe itself,
can anyone recommend a schedule/recipe that works in this weather
i am using GH Flora line; which is doing a terrible job in the pots.
currently im feeding once in 3 days (F) then water the pots with pH'd tap water (W) in between with 5L every each time;the loop looks like this FWWWWW
my current feed recipe for 15L/4G batch is 6ml Micro 9ml Bloom twice a week

the girls are hanging in there for now, as i keep a close eye on them, made few rookie mistakes; had a pH lockup until i figured it out (stupid pots drifting),
then nute overproduce (happy fingers); root zone heat buildup (black pots+sun=bad); and now im seeing Nitrogen deficiency creeping in,
i need help figuring out a regiment that works ASAP
they cant take more abuse as we are getting into flowering in two three weeks time


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Old 06-29-2012, 09:49 AM #2
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אם אתה משתמש בכבול נקי אני ממליץ קודם כל להוסיף 5 ליטר הומוס מעל כל עציץ כזה.
מעל ההומוס לשים שכבה של קש \ טוף \ אבנים \ מה שבא לך לחיפוי כדי להקטין את האידוי.

אם יש לך בעיה של חימום בית השורשים אולי אתה יכול לקבור את העציצים בתוך האדמה. זה גם ינמיך את הצמח וגם ימנע את החימום המיותר של העציץ.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:06 AM #3
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Thanks Bud,
i worked out all my kinks so far accept for the feeding regiment
im used to a reservoir and ppm&pH meter to keep track of things
here im running with the basic necessities, ph strips etc

im using premium peat moss for media and flora for feeding (12-Micro 18-Bloom per Gallon divided into two weekly feeding)
i started boosting with Ecogan's (8.2.8) sea weed which seems to be doing a much better job on theses ladies outdoors so far
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:19 AM #4
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those are looking really very nice man!

imo, more than the feeding, the problem is the medium you chose, peat moss...

at the botanical garden they sell a very nice soil mix, with coco coir and all the works, lightly fertilized, you can even germinate with it no probs.

but even using just peat moss like you are, in the pics, those ladies are looking fantastic.

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Old 06-29-2012, 11:20 AM #5
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sog,the only problem you have that i can see is not enough soil for your babies,they are huge and full of branches,they look great,you should take a close up on the damaged leaf's to try and show the deficiencies,but in general plants that grow so much mass on top would have generaly wanted to be in bigger pots
and if you fill your soil too early,meaning the roots have used all their given space to early,you can encounter a major lockup,and for me this is the worts kind because it can lock anything,it's a root lock not a nutrient lock,so the roots just wont eat,the only thing that's actually keeping your babies going i think is the air coming back in fast into the roots
because of the heat
i don't know wha tyou can do now,maybe chop off a bit of the plants from the bottom,because for those pots that's alot of green mass,you can try and see if they manage without adding more soil but in the future,outdoors i'd give them a bigger pot
i give my indoor plants 26lt pots and to be honest a sativa should have an even bigger one
you never want to run out of space in your soil before the flowering stage
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:37 AM #6
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thank you Angel
that's exactly what I've been going through, these pots through me off for loop
i got the biggest ones i could get my hands on 27L, they were moved up in three stages
first pot was one liter; then to 12 and afterward to the 27L you see in the pic

honestly i dont think they are all they could be for 10 weeks old
it feels as if im missing out on something there

some deficiency pics from last week, before i boosted with Echo Sea Weed 8.2.8
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when did you transplant from 12L to 27L? if it was not long ago, I doubt it is root-locked.

I still think the culprit is using pure peat-moss as medium... it has too many pH fluctuations and no good aeration.
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Thanks Bombadil
they were moved to the 27L pots little over a month ago
the media is peat moss with perlite and houmus mix
its the premium stuff hydroshop sells
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to the best of my knowledge the rule of thumb for pot size is 1 gallon per month of life cycle
these pots are 7 Gallon / 27 Liter; which should cover them for about 6 months before they get root bound
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you can try to top dress with pure worm castings.

this will help greatly with any pH issues and add readily available nitrogen.

stop feeding from the bottles for a week or two, and see how they react.

you can also add humic and fulvic acids, surely will be easy to find here, even though I have not searched for them.

they are also great alongside the worm castings at stabilizing mediums and providing oxygenation.

the peat should react very well with these too.
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