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Old 05-23-2012, 04:40 PM #1
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By Steve Olafson
OKLAHOMA CITY | Wed May 16, 2012 7:27pm EDT

(Reuters) - Oklahoma will require welfare applicants to submit to screening for illegal drug use under a bill signed into law on Wednesday by Republican Governor Mary Fallin.
Oklahoma became the fourth state this year to approve such a measure, joining Utah, Georgia and Tennessee. Fourteen other states had similar proposals pending, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
The law takes effect on November 1 for adults who apply in Oklahoma to the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program for benefits. Applicants will be denied benefits if they fail the test or refuse to submit to screening.
"Hard working taxpayers shouldn't be asked to subsidize drug abuse, and this bill will help to ensure they are not," Fallin said in a statement.
Applicants who test positive for illegal drug use and undergo substance abuse treatment may reapply for benefits six months after their denial.
Drug screening will not be required in cases involving just children or underage parents, and an alternate recipient may be named if a parent has been denied benefits.
When the measure first passed the Oklahoma House in March, Democrats opposed to the proposal tacked on an amendment that would have required all candidates for public office in Oklahoma to undergo a drug test. The amendment was dropped in the Senate.
Since federal welfare reform in 1996, many states have proposed drug testing welfare recipients. Michigan became the first state to require testing, but its law was struck down as unconstitutional by the Michigan state appeals court in 2003.
Florida approved a law last year requiring drug screening for welfare applicants, but a federal judge blocked it temporarily. Arizona and Missouri also approved similar laws last year.
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:42 PM #2
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We demand that those being supported with taxpayer money be tested for drug use. I suppose by eliminating government representatives. They are admitting that those representatives are mainly supported by lobbyists, corporations and insider stock trading. Not by the taxpayer money they receive monthly.
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:51 PM #3
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Good, hate to see people abusing welfare. Money could be better spent on abortions and such.
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:14 PM #4
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well cocaine dont stay in your system long along with a few other drugs. so the crackheads will continue to get their money. what about all the alcoholics ?
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:24 PM #5
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Too bad they can't test for incompetence and laziness. I used to be a tax paying citizen, then Katrina destroyed everything I had. I had a job but the company was destroyed, I didn't qualify for unemployment but people that never looked for a job and who were professional baby makers were getting over 4000 a month. If welfare worked the way it was originally intended I'd support it, as it stands it's a broken record rewarding the unworthy for laziness making it almost impossible for someone that really needs the help to get it.
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:32 PM #6
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Time to drop the crack, weed, meth and heroin and get themselves some grade A pharmaceuticals from their Dr.

I think most poor people prefer prescription drugs anyways, they're usually cheaper and easier to get, just gotta be able to afford the co-pay.
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You may remember that Gov. Rick Scott of Florida instituted drug testing for all welfare recipients in that state on the premise that it would save the state money by not having to pay benefits to those who were on drugs. And guess what they found out? Welfare recipients use drugs at a lower rate than the rest of the population — and by a pretty significant margin.
Since the state began testing welfare applicants for drugs in July, about 2 percent have tested positive, preliminary data shows.
Ninety-six percent proved to be drug free — leaving the state on the hook to reimburse the cost of their tests.

About 2% fail and another 2% have refused to take the tests. Even if you assume that all who refuse it would test positive, that’s far below the overall rate of use both nationally and in the state of Florida. According to federal data, 7-7.7% of Florida residents use illicit drugs, meaning the rate of welfare recipients is about half that of the general population of the state. And remember, Scott sold this idea on the grounds that welfare recipients used drugs at a higher rate than others.

And by the way, this is going to cost a fortune:
Cost of the tests averages about $30. Assuming that 1,000 to 1,500 applicants take the test every month, the state will owe about $28,800-$43,200 monthly in reimbursements to those who test drug-free.
That compares with roughly $32,200-$48,200 the state may save on one month’s worth of rejected applicants.
The savings assume that 20 to 30 people — 2 percent of 1,000 to 1,500 tested — fail the drug test every month. On average, a welfare recipient costs the state $134 in monthly benefits, which the rejected applicants won’t get, saving the state $2,680-$3,350 per month.
But since one failed test disqualifies an applicant for a full year’s worth of benefits, the state could save $32,200-$48,200 annually on the applicants rejected in a single month.
Net savings to the state — $3,400 to $8,200 annually on one month’s worth of rejected applicants. Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800-$98,400 for the cash assistance program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year.
Actual savings will vary, however, since not all of the applicants denied benefits might have actually collected them for the full year. Under certain circumstances, applicants who failed their drug test can reapply for benefits after six months.
The as-yet uncalculated cost of staff hours and other resources that DCF has had to spend on implementing the program may wipe out most or all of the apparent savings, said Derek Newton, spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida. The program will grow costlier yet, he said, if it draws a legal challenge.
So what’s really going on here? Well it turns out that Rick Scott just happens to own a chain of health care clinics that get much of their revenue from drug testing. What a shock.
Why don't we test all government workers including politicians... ASSHOLES !!!!
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I think its ironic that the OK senate removed the amendment to drug test elected officials. Apparently you shouldn't help poor druggies but it is OK to support the rich ones.
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