Originally Posted by dagnabit
to bad 'ol john sinclair didn't live where you do...
most likely Obama's skin color would have yielded a significantly different result from your half ounce...
lets just say it would not have been the weed smashed into the ground.
the big O went on record for decriminalization then flipped.
but i agree i didn't expect any different from him. i just didn't expect escalation!
Really? I don't think so, they guy who owned the half ounce and who admitted to the cops it was his was black. I know it's simply impossible for you to believe anything other then the stereotypes drummed into your head from both sides. Unlike you though I was there and am speaking from actual first hand experience rather then pure speculation and opinion.
Also the only way you can really make the claim of escalation stick is if you go with the whole, "Well it happened on his watch so it's his fault" arguement. Fact is the people responsible for the escalation against dispensaries have gone on record as acting on thier own accord without orders or permission from the White House or the Attorney General. Oh I know it's all BS and they likely just said that to keep Obama's name out. Funny how you types who blindly argue against Obama are quick to hold him accountable to your interpretations of things he's said on record when it works in favor of your arguement but when someone goes on record with things that work against your arguement it should be dismissed. Too bad 'ol John Sinclair and everyone else doesn't live where you do so we can all have our cake and eat it too.
You watch this video from 2008 where during an interview Obama very clearly states he favors decriminalization. If you watch this and take his words at face value and walk away think Obama supports decriminalization, then I want some of whatever you're smoking. The fact is that the vast majority of people agaainst Obama now that supported him before are there because they heard what they wanted to hear when he talked about change. This is true for marijuana users who thought he was going to decriminalize or legalize marijuana.This is true for all the blacks that voted for him because he was black figuring "A brotha is gonna hook anotha brotha up yo" This is true for all the poor who thought he was going to give out even more money then he has given out in spite of the fact everyone knows there is no money to be given out and nobody that has any money to pitch in towards fixing things wants to pitch in. This is true for all the liberal pacifists that thought he would march into the oval office and call all the troops home instantly which would result in a disaster that totally undoes what 1000's of our bravest and most patriotic young men and women have died for? I could go on and on, and the final analysis is that all of you that got anything more then the same only political doublespeak the US has been getting my entire 50 some years in this land, you all played yourselves.
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The only thing different about Obama really then any other past president is that he's black. He happens to be gifted with a talent for speaking and a gift of Charisma that reminds older folks of JFK and that's probably why so many people let thier imaginations run wild.
I know this is going to sound ugly and if it does, deal with it because it's also the gospel truth. Obama got elected because of the aforementioned and because we as a nation were both desperate, and apathetic. Apathetic in that even though voter turnout was better then it's been since the days of JFK but not guite as high as back then and either way it is just less then half of our voting eligable population bothering to vote. Hell even under serious threat of death from their own people and with a government everyone knew was flawed and thrust upon them turnout was greater then the US has ever been over in Iraq. That's nearly half our population that doesn't really believe in the very system governing thier lives. With good reason too when you closely examine the Federal Government track record from day one. We do a piss poor job in electing a government who will truely serve the will of the people as it was meant to be. I say desperate in that we elected a black man. Qualification wise the democrats really should have nominated Hillary but while we were desperate we weren't that desperate. No offense to women meant on my part, personally I think women are perfectly capable of being just as corrupt as men, just look at Nancy Pelosi. Me personally though I like women in politics because they're usually not as bad corruption wise as their male counterparts. I say this without doubt or hesitation because why would we put any man let alone a black man in office if he had no other real qualifications then that he was a man? Hilary almost made it though and that was because Obama was a black man and the nation had to chew long and hard on that one. Some like to think Obama made it because we've really changed as a nation and put childish racist ideoligies behind us but it's not true and you can see it in how easily everyone disrespects the office of the President because he's black. I remember a time growing up where people had more respect for the office even when they didn't like the guy in it. Not only that though. All one needs do to see the race issue is as alive and well as ever is to look at the Trayvon Martin case and the Jena 6 case as just two of many recent examples. Find any story on line about Martin and/or Zimmerman and read the comments section and you'll find plenty of racial vitriol typical of knuckle dragging morons on both sides. There is not even an atom of doubt in my mind Obama got elected out of desperation.
The only positive I can say about Obama is that to be fair he's not really been given a decent chance. I say this because he's the one who gets blamed for the bailouts when really the bailouts started with Bush but now that many of the bailouts are actually returning a profit some of those same folks blaming Obama are now crediting Bush. That and the whole republican party, who controls the house and a large enough portion of the senate to keep the dems from having a super majority, vowing to do everything in thier power to block anything Obama tries to do. Even if it goes against the will of the constituency of those republicans. Because of these things Obama really hasn't hard a fair chance to show us what he can do. The few things he did accomplish even have been so perverted by Obama's willingness to try and work with the republicans that they're not really making enough of a difference. Yet inspite of all these obstacles and a much fuller plate then most presidents have ever had let alone a rookie senator the nation has improved and maybe, just maybe if our representatives did thier jobs rather then play the games they do, maybe the people suffering the most with this sluggish economy may be able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get this nation back to it's former greatness. As long as we keep playing this Capitalist vs Socialist, Republican vs Democrat, Conservative vs Liberal, Rich vs Poor and Whites vs everybody else bullshit we've been playing the past few centuries though then we will continue to fail and democracy as we know it will fail with us.
The only solution is for all Americans to get off their fat, lazy, ignorant, McDonalds, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut eating asses, stop being so fucking self indulgent and get out there and learn the issues and vote like we give a fuck. Vote like we are the shining example of democracy we're supposed to be. I don't care who you vote for just do it for a reason greater then because that's the party you always vote for. That and don't do it just once. Do it each and every mother fucking time you get a chance for the rest of your life and let your representative know that if they don't do what the voters tell them to do they are out of there. This ability to vote is a god damn right and priviledge and yet we waste it. Yeah the system is fucked and yeah most likely it'll be a long time before it gets significantly better. But all that's true because We The People allow it to be. This shit is all for us, it was made for us by us and it's spelled out in the first three words of the Constitution. We The (motherfucking) People. It's high time we take control of this wreck while we still can. Hell I'm not even entirely certain there is a chance for us anymore we've allowed the corruption so deep. I'm certain of this though, if we keep doing the same thing we've been doing though it's only going to get worse and eventually it will be too late.