Originally Posted by taslicker

Yep the mums could get going but you could try smaller post and weaker lights to hold them back a bit.

The potash will stay awhile provided you don't do any heavy flushing.
I use it as a general purpose soil mix for indoor and out.

I'm not a fan of expensive additives. I use this mix on my greenhouse tomatoes in pots. Works a treat with them. The potash improves the taste of the tomatoes.

Well the Mums are only in 500ml pots under 2 48w cfls so should be ok. Do you add any liquid ferts to that or just water?

[High Country]

Originally Posted by DU420

Well the Mums are only in 500ml pots under 2 48w cfls so should be ok. Do you add any liquid ferts to that or just water?

I use Seasol seaweed extract for my mums and that's about all. It encourages good root and vegetative growth. Potash or potassium (K) is good for flowering and forming fruit like tomatoes...and bud.

But don't over do it

I now tend to use big pots for my mums just to cut down on the numbers. I can prune them down big time and they don't mind because of the large root mass and recover quickly.

Originally Posted by High Country

I use Seasol seaweed extract for my mums and that's about all. It encourages good root and vegetative growth. Potash or potassium (K) is good for flowering and forming fruit like tomatoes...and bud.

But don't over do it

I now tend to use big pots for my mums just to cut down on the numbers. I can prune them down big time and they don't mind because of the large root mass and recover quickly.

I might save that more complex mix for my outdoor mix since that's what I was after in the first place and just use some premium organic potting mix and some perlite for my mothers. Oh my mother cab is only 2.8sqft and 320mm high, so no big pots just my 500ml pots I only need 8 clones every 2 weeks. And I'm using Charlie carp organic atm.

[taslicker]

Well the Mums are only in 500ml pots under 2 48w cfls so should be ok. Do you add any liquid ferts to that or just water?

i only add liquid ferts if the plant shows some signs of nutrient deficiency.

If your growing outside the growth rate is usually slower and the nutrient uptake slower. so, the plant has time to convert and extract all the organic nutrients in the soil.
If your grow pot (or prepared hole) is large enough you shouldn't need anything but water.
The only thing you could add is worm wee or worm castings or Seasol ( i'm with you High Country) to act as soil activator or catalysts .
When you dig up your MJ plant at the end of the season you should see lots of garden worms.

Well just went to bunnings and they've changed suppliers so no more amgrow or debco organics, no more perlite, no more unammended coco bricks and no more manutec cheap nutes...... I had to settle for scotts osmocote plus organics potting and planting and some richgro organic compost with eziwet, anyone use these?
I also got some yates blood and bone with potash, some dynamic lifter and some additional potash just incase. I was going to get some trace elements but wasnt sure if I'd need them.

This is my soil mix but I need help with additives like dynamic lifter and blood and bone. I'm wary of following the instructions on packaging after doing so with gogo juice and rhizotonic and puting my seedlings in the infirmary.

25L scotts osmocote plus organics (6 months slow release ferts, composted manure, seaweed, blood and bone, fish, gypsum)
25L richgro organic compost w/ eziwet
12L perlite
1.5 cups dolomite lime
??? Blood and bone + potash
??? Dynamic lifter
??? Sulphite of potash(don't know if I need this now)

Is there anything I missed? Thanks again for helping out a noob in need.

[taslicker]

i'm assuming this soil is for an outdoor grow.

both the Blood n Bone and Dynamic Lifter are not "hot" fertilizers so its hard to overuse them. i would put in 3-4 cups of Dynamic Lifter and 2-3 cups of Blood n Bone with the 50 ltrs of mix. mixed in well.

i don't know the quantity of Potash in the Blood and Bone but i'm assuming its for normal growing needs so i would put in a little extra, maybe 2 tablespoons for the whole 50 litres.

back when you could burn your own green waste in the back yard my dad used to use ashes from his garden fire to get potash


dont forget to use Seasol for transplanting and every few week to keep the soil active. the Seasol is not a fertilizer but a soil activator that encourages the growth of soil bacteria and microbes that increase the uptake of nutrients from the soil.

Originally Posted by taslicker

i'm assuming this soil is for an outdoor grow.

both the Blood n Bone and Dynamic Lifter are not "hot" fertilizers so its hard to overuse them. i would put in 3-4 cups of Dynamic Lifter and 2-3 cups of Blood n Bone with the 50 ltrs of mix. mixed in well.

i don't know the quantity of Potash in the Blood and Bone but i'm assuming its for normal growing needs so i would put in a little extra, maybe 2 tablespoons for the whole 50 litres.

back when you could burn your own green waste in the back yard my dad used to use ashes from his garden fire to get potash


dont forget to use Seasol for transplanting and every few week to keep the soil active. the Seasol is not a fertilizer but a soil activator that encourages the growth of soil bacteria and microbes that increase the uptake of nutrients from the soil.

thanks tas your a champ, considering that the ferts in the osmocote are supposed to be organic it shouldn't make the mix hot should it? I've got gogo juice as a soil probiotic that contains seaweed and kelp meal and such. And I was gonna put this in a 60L bin out back in the sun to bake till oct/nov to let it all work together the dynamic lifter says you need to water it in though I dont need to wet this mix before leaving it to sit do i?

[taslicker]

And I was gonna put this in a 60L bin out back in the sun to bake till oct/nov to let it all work together the dynamic lifter says you need to water it in though I dont need to wet this mix before leaving it to sit do i?

wet no, but damp yes.
all composting needs to be damp but not soaking wet.
if you dont want to wet the whole mix because its already damp just spray the Dynamic lifter with an atomizer before you mix it in. the damp contact between it and the mix will allow the transfer and spread of the nutrients and bacteria.

mix and stir the bin once a week to get all the lovely oxygen through the mix.
in Oct it will be so good you can eat it

Ok thanks again tas I think Im all set just waiting on some perlite. I'll give it a few months then if its good enough to eat like you say I'll add some bananas and yoghurt and dig in