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Old 05-09-2012, 07:56 AM #11
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Y'all be careful now. People gonna start calling you conspiracy theorists, spouting out garbage information and scientific studies and whatnot.

The giant multimillion dollar sunscreen companies love you.

Now go back to sleep.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:17 AM #12
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Should really wear a hat, too.
Not just a baseball cap either. A full brim to protect your ears and neck.

Just got my first Tilley this year for the farm and walking with the wife and dog. It's a great hat, but I am old.

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Old 05-09-2012, 08:51 AM #13
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Who didnt see that coming?
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:35 AM #14
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There also are natural sunscreens which would be better to use than nothing at all, rather than the chemical ones that this article says is better than nothing.
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I'm speechless. Go head and don't wear the sunscreen. We got to thin out the herd somehow, better later than never.



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this study found that natural botanical sunscreen was just as effective as synthetic sunscreen at preventing burns/sun damage.

the protection came from the antioxidant, anti-inflammatory, healing properties of the herbs, which were noted as having protection beyond burn prevention

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sunscreen derived from Chinese herbs was able to improve skin tonicity, as well as reduce the itching, photoerythema, squamation, burning, and reddening caused by the excessive UV radiation, while the synthetic sunscreen could not improve these conditions of the skin, and even induced some side-effects in the skin with photoerythema. By comparing the in vivo SPF values of the two types of sunscreen, they were found to be mainly similar. The results indicate that the SPF value was related to both a photo-reaction and a biological reaction. The sunscreen derived from natural Chinese herbs, although having low UV absorption, was able to exhibit the same SPF value as the synthetic sunscreen because of its biological effects.

PMID: 18505501, Int J Cosmet Sci. 1998 Jun;20(3):175-81., Research on a natural sunscreen from Chinese herbs. Hu G, Wang X., Source Shanghai Institute of Dermatology, 196 Wu Yi Road Shanghai China.
for the past few years Ive been using Saint John's Wort infused oil as my only sunscreen.. with out a doubt it works better for my skin than sunscreen or block.

its topically healing and definitely prevents burns.. the benefits seem to be cumulative- after wearing it for a couple weeks it even prevents burns when I forget to put it on.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:08 PM #17
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:03 PM #18
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My wife makes some from Chaparral (aka Creosote bush), but the smell makes me nauseous.
St. Johns Wort is an interesting choice, since it is claimed to cause phototoxicity sometimes.

But I was actually here to post about the sunscreen/skin cancer irony: many people are vitamin D deficient, and sunscreen reduces your ability to synthesize it, yet vitamin D is thought by some to be preventive to developing cancer,making sunscreen possibly
counterproductive. Though there is more to protecting your skin than just worries about skin cancer I guess.

(didn't see the whole other page of the thread, guess that had already been said...)

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what's next, vitamins and exercise cause cancer?
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what's next, vitamins and exercise cause cancer?
Only if you drink water at the same time as working out or taking your pills. Or if you live in a major city, the extra breathing probably makes it more risky
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