JHerbz, what you describe also sounds like a migraine, but without the headache. I think I've read of something that I want to call a blind migraine, it's a migraine with all the symptoms except
Btw, what you're vomiting is bile.
Originally Posted by OneTokeOver
I am a heavy user (10 – 15 grams per day) with chronic pain from back injuries. I have had 4 unexplained “episodes” in the last 9 months which required hospitalization. The most recent was yesterday.
An attack starts with a sudden onset of the chills, the hair on my arms and legs and stand straight up and then I start to feel nauseous. I begin to sweat profusely, I mean buckets of sweat, I soaked completely through 6 blankets last night and my mattress is so wet I may have to toss it. The chills get worse, to the point that it is very painful to have skin exposed to the air and I start to hyper-ventilate.
Then I start puking, moving on to dry heaves. At this point, roughly 30 mins. in, I am completely incapacitated. Once in the hospital, it usually takes 4 or 5 hours to run all the tests (same ones every time). Every test comes back negative, the docs say I am remarkably healthy for my age (50). Then they hit me with a shotgun blast of 3 anti-biotics and I am good as new in 30 mins.
A few things I found curious, my pulse is abnormally low when this happens (55 bpm) and my body temp is normal or low, not elevated as you expect with the profuse sweating.
Now the interesting part, I saw a different doc yesterday who immediately asked me if I smoked cannabis. He said he has had 2 similar case and the common factor in all 3 cases is heavy cannabis use. He is theorizing that the cbd’s are messing with my temperature regulation.
I have spent the entire morning on the net looking for pertinent info, while I am finding correlations between my symptoms and heavy cannabis use they are noted during withdrawal which is certainly not the case with me.
So in the interest of finding out what is going on with my body (or brain as the case may be) I would like to know if anyone else has experienced anything similar.
What I'm not understanding is why the antibiotics? And why such a dramatic effect after being administered antibiotics? That's boggling my mind more than the idea that cannabis may be causing a reaction.
My heart rate is normally in the 50bpm range, is that unusual? I am NOTHING resembling a runner, either. I *did* learn to slightly control my heart rate when I was in ICU after the rattlesnake bite, I was seriously bored and learned how to make all the alarms go off.
What you describe is exactly what I go through with migraines, btw. I don't know my heart rate, and I never have anyone take me to the hospital, though I've really wanted to.
Originally Posted by OneTokeOver
Thanks to all for participating.
Just to clarify on a few points;
I grow my own, organic - no chems.
No pain pills, I try to avoid pharmaceuticals as much as poss.
The doc asked about my use after seeing my chart but before the blood tests.
I had the same thought about the anti-biotic esp. since the first two times they figured acute gastrointestinal infection.
I am starting to think he is on to something. It certainly appears to be a neurological issue. I am fine physically, no abnormalities in blood or urine. The sweating with a low or normal body temp. Low pulse but hyperventilating.
Absolutely NO abnormalities in the blood? Because what you're describing also sounds perilously close to a blood Ca crash, and I've experienced it. My heart rate went down to 32bpm, and I felt like hell
. I actually thought I was going to die, and I figure since they admitted me perhaps they thought I was going to as well.
You see, it really was
a tumor, a tumor that must be imaged using radioisotopes (one of the weirder imaging sequences I've experienced). Back in '04 I decided to get a physical, and through a blood test they discovered my blood Ca levels were pretty much off the chart, through the roof. A few tests later I'm referred to an endocrinologist, who has me imaged.
I had a tumor of the parathyroid, causing hyperparathyroidism, which caused my blood Ca levels to go through the roof. This typically leads to kidney stones (aka killme stones, had one last week, and this is POST-op, no bueno) which is how it's normally discovered. Another symptom of hyperparathyroidism may be psychological issues (resembling schizophrenia, hallucinations, hearing things, that sort of stuff). Since mine was found via blood tests I left it til I got stones.
Had the tumor removed three years later, and within two days I was crashing but didn't know it. They keep you hospitalized post-surg for this stuff to test blood Ca levels to ensure your body has begun regulating well. They thought I was good to go, but I wasn't.
The whole point is that something as simple as Ca being off can lead to some really weird shit. It can fuck up your heart rate. It can give you kidney stones. It can make your brain go totally haywire. And it is but one important element.
I hope that the tests were thorough and that you're not put through chasing a wild goose that bears no fruit.
A note also: I smoke a lot of cannabis on a daily basis to help my pain issues. I have increased substantially my use since I started growing my own. To that end, I've been able to hoard my Darvocet and save it for the worst episodes. I similarly hoard my other pain pills. I've been down that road of decreasing returns with the Darvocet after my work injury, I'd rather smoke weed as long as I can.