[blissfest]

rives?

im not sure you get it?

[rives]

Originally Posted by blissfest

rives?

im not sure you get it?

Perhaps not, but I think that I do. I saw that in the D9 quote you included that he had mentioned a water analysis. I was referencing the posts made by people who don't mention that step, and just tee off on calmag/epsom. My research indicates that cannabis likes +/- 50 ppm of Mg, and 2-3x that of Ca. My point is that, if you have water like mine, you aren't getting there with most nutrients regardless of where your pH runs or how much you let it swing because the Mg isn't there to start with. Without a water analysis, you are setting yourself up for a long, frustrating period of trial and error, wondering what you are doing wrong.

lay off the calmag first of all and second do some research and be sure your calmag+ is good. There are some bottles that get cloudy or have precipitate at the bottom...
look into cleaner alternatives like to calimagic by Gh, or magical by techniflora....


as well I would be using drip clean throught out when using blumats they do help.....on that note...blumats + coco = more water, less nutes.......


***and when I am at my lowest of base nutrient doses I need 100-150 ppm of whatever camg product, but by week 3-4, when I hit my max I need none....gotta get down and do some math to explain it all but as you use more base nutes you need less added ca and mg.

[Vic Hammer]

FF, this is straight from H & G's Drip Clean FAQ:

"WARNING: IF INTRODUCING DRIP CLEAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CYCLE, IT CAN RELEASE SALTS AND NUTRIENTS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN STORED UP IN THE MEDIUM. THIS MAY BURN YOUR PLANTS OR CAUSE A NUTRIENT LOCKOUT OR BOTH. IT IS RECOMMENDED TO USE DRIP CLEAN FROM THE BEGINNING FOR THE BEST RESULTS."

[FlowerFarmer]

^Thanks what I was hearing - didnt realize it was right there on their site.

Holding off until next round to use drip clean.

[BubbaBear]

Does anyone have experience successfully adding Drip Clean late in a plants life and not running it from the beginning? If you do a flush with half strength nutrients then add drip clean and lower your ppms a bit wont this avoid the over ferting and lockout it can cause?

Summers here and its getting warm and dry,Im running coco DTW, I'd like to lower my ppms and reduce the amount of run off, right now im at 10%-20%. Drip clean seems highly recommend to accomplish this. I already use enzymes, yucca and Sea Green to help with salt build up. Will adding drip clean now be helpful or just mess things up?

[stoned40yrs]

Originally Posted by BubbaBear

Does anyone have experience successfully adding Drip Clean late in a plants life and not running it from the beginning? If you do a flush with half strength nutrients then add drip clean and lower your ppms a bit wont this avoid the over ferting and lockout it can cause?

Summers here and its getting warm and dry,Im running coco DTW, I'd like to lower my ppms and reduce the amount of run off, right now im at 10%-20%. Drip clean seems highly recommend to accomplish this. I already use enzymes, yucca and Sea Green to help with salt build up. Will adding drip clean now be helpful or just mess things up?

Forget the DC. You for sure don't need any with runoff and I'm now convinced you don't need any with no runoff. I used it on and off for a couple years and now it's on my list of crap that doesn't do anythingI use blumat drippers with no runoff. Save your money for products that work IMO

[oti$]

If you are feeding to run off it definitely eliminates the need. I've dropped it as well after learning how much my plants feed. I too run blumats and feed 1.0-1.2 ec now withiut dc without build up problems. Its a good insurance policy if you are feeding higher ec. Before i bought a truncheon and learned about low ec feeds i was following the directions on the bottles and when i finally took an ec reading on my res it was2.8ec and the run off was off the meter crazy high, so i believe the drip clean did save my ass as a noob...or maybe i just got lucky.

[BubbaBear]

Thanks for your guys input, it sounds like I'll be fine without it and possibly better off just feeding a lower ppm, monitoring the EC of my run off and sticking with the salt mitigating products im familiar with.

[tiffa]

Originally Posted by stoned40yrs

Forget the DC. You for sure don't need any with runoff and I'm now convinced you don't need any with no runoff. I used it on and off for a couple years and now it's on my list of crap that doesn't do anythingI use blumat drippers with no runoff. Save your money for products that work IMO

THAT's valuable info right there!...thanks Sto
is it still the case a few years later, how did you get on? I'm a blumater too