[cave]

i am looking to get an LED i do not want to spend a fortune and i want to use 200w or less i think i have narrowed it down to these 3
htg supply agromax 150w (actual 150)
htg supply led 7 (actual unknown)
blackstar 240w (actual 133/135 or so)


input from the expert is much appreciated
or if there are otheres i missed

[grow_right]

i have 2 diamond series 200w leds from advancedledlights.com.
i am very impressed with the quality and harvest. my cabinets are 24"x24".

[dddaver]

I just got a Blackstar and I'm just on my first grow with it. But I have read good things and can only say it vegs great right now. Also, all that hype about wattage was measured as DRAW not output, so it DRAWS 135 watts. Isn't efficiency a good thing? I'm really no expert, but that does seem logical to me.

[Highlighter]

The best light you have listed is the HTG Agromax, and I think you could do better for that $.
I have a ProGrow 260 and am very happy w/ it. $409. They list it @ 180w but it reads 200w on my Kill-a-Watt.

grow_right's suggestion is a good one too.

Another newer source are the E-Shine lights, direct from China.
Seems like a great bang for your buck.

Good luck!

[cave]

thanks i have thought about the eshine but i am reading alot that says to stay away from the china ones i have been looking at the diamond 200w and extreme flower 180w to send $600 but i just might have to. the blackstar is cheap that is the only reason i was looking at it but you get what you pay for i guess

[Don Dump]

my pro grow 180 works pretty good. I am happy with it

[Highlighter]

All these units are made in chinese factories, make no mistake!
E-Shine has long made aquarium lighting, and supposedly is the factory where the Diamond Series come from, as well as HGL til last yr.
That's a big leg-up from the chinese junk you find on E-Bay.

[ChrisGGG]

I think eshine and cidly are alright for the money. The new Blackstar Chrome from what I can see is just a rebranded Cidly Apollo. You can get an Apollo 6 which should pull ~200 for under $300 shipped to the US. They claim LEDs double in efficiency every 18 months so I find it hard to drop big money on something that is not modular/upgradeable. I've done a small DIY and plan on upgrading parts as needed.

[foaf]

it has been asked several times in the big thread, where to buy e-shine lights and where to get prices, but it has never really been answered. I emailed the "salespeople" on the site twice, and no reply. Do they sell retail on the "corporate" site(s)? Other sources?

[oneshot]

My current grow is being done by the 126x3w e.Shine light. They are not the typical china eBay light.

Originally Posted by foaf

it has been asked several times in the big thread, where to buy e-shine lights and where to get prices, but it has never really been answered. I emailed the "salespeople" on the site twice, and no reply. Do they sell retail on the "corporate" site(s)? Other sources?

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