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Bennyweed1 · 04-06-2012, 07:54 AM

Is organics better then synthetics

By no means do I expect to make this scientific. I for one -am not a scientist but only want to show results the average grower may expect to get or use as a simple reference point.

For this simple side by side, all I intend to do is veg two identical cuttings in small 16oz cups. I want to find out which one clearly outperforms the other before becoming completely root bound. Height, total size, and vigor will be my main focus. See pretty simple huh?

The controls will be (you guessed it) an organic soil crop receiving plain H20, no pH, no additives, no nothing and the second control will be the full nine yards. Straight COCO, AN 3 part base, magical, a carb supplement, pH pens, EC testing, the works.

Are smart pots better than regular pots

Again for this side by side I anticipate to keep it meek. Same model, comparable rules but a little altered to keep things equivalent.

Two identical cuttings being growing in straight COCO, using synthetic nutrients, but one cut is going to be in a small regular 1 liter container and the other in a .9L airpot. I know the difference is .1L so I will trim the none smart pot for equal medium proportions.

Again the main focuses will be height, total size, and vigor before becoming completely root bound.

If interest, stay tuned.

Rondelia · 07-21-2012, 01:46 PM

So? Any progress? What happened?

ps I cant believe nobody answered in this thead yet..

yerboyblue · 07-21-2012, 04:33 PM

Use a mix of both. That is the best.

Bennyweed1 · 07-21-2012, 11:43 PM

Oh wow, I never knew it even wast posted.

When you submit stuff here it has to get approved by the moderator and I never knew it was approved! My mistake.

I will still do this side by side now that I know this thread is here. I need a little time to get things arranged now. Ill post again when I am ready to do this.

Good times.

supermanlives · 07-25-2012, 05:53 PM

in my experience synthetics yield more , organics have better flavors and smells i cant match with chems.

07-29-2012, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by yerboyblue

Use a mix of both. That is the best.

Absolutely not. Organics rely upon the micro herd to keep the soil alive and feed the plant. Synthetics feed the plant directly and because of their salt base and high dose end up killing the bioherd. Pick organic or synthetic(I am a great believer in organics for many reasons), but don't try mixing the two.

yerboyblue · 07-29-2012, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSterling

Absolutely not. Organics rely upon the micro herd to keep the soil alive and feed the plant. Synthetics feed the plant directly and because of their salt base and high dose end up killing the bioherd. Pick organic or synthetic(I am a great believer in organics for many reasons), but don't try mixing the two.

Your absolutely right. Tho the brand of synthetic I use is derived from organics, and is actually mostly organic, something like 80%. They are a very low dose synthetic. Soul Synthetics is what I run, along with some Roots Organic. Seems to be working wonders honestly.

supermanlives · 08-14-2012, 07:06 PM

fox farms and pbp both mix chems and organics. with excellent results. it can be done.

mckb024 · 08-17-2012, 03:33 AM

I know from experience that soil needs more cubic area to keep from getting rootbound, unlike rockwool, no experience with coco though. test on brother!!!!

guyguy · 11-08-2012, 09:02 PM

What happened to this thread.. Are you no longer continuing with the experiment???

04-06-2012, 07:54 AM	#1
Bennyweed1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,599	Testing some everyday curiosities. Is organics better then synthetics By no means do I expect to make this scientific. I for one -am not a scientist but only want to show results the average grower may expect to get or use as a simple reference point. For this simple side by side, all I intend to do is veg two identical cuttings in small 16oz cups. I want to find out which one clearly outperforms the other before becoming completely root bound. Height, total size, and vigor will be my main focus. See pretty simple huh? The controls will be (you guessed it) an organic soil crop receiving plain H20, no pH, no additives, no nothing and the second control will be the full nine yards. Straight COCO, AN 3 part base, magical, a carb supplement, pH pens, EC testing, the works. Are smart pots better than regular pots Again for this side by side I anticipate to keep it meek. Same model, comparable rules but a little altered to keep things equivalent. Two identical cuttings being growing in straight COCO, using synthetic nutrients, but one cut is going to be in a small regular 1 liter container and the other in a .9L airpot. I know the difference is .1L so I will trim the none smart pot for equal medium proportions. Again the main focuses will be height, total size, and vigor before becoming completely root bound. If interest, stay tuned. __________________ "Leave this world a better place than the way you found it." --------------------------------------------------- Some call me a conspiracy theorist, but the only thing I know to be true about 9/11 are the innocent people who lost their lives. Someday, we will have real justice. Someday the official story will be the conspiracy. Someday, you will have to be the one to shock the system Its said we were attacked because of our freedom, well it would appear, a decade later and some collective 1.5 million lives lost, that who ever "they are", have won, because AmerIkA is no longer free. NSA, TSA, FBI, CIA, DoD, BATF, DEA, DHS, BLM, USDA, FDA, IRS, and the emerging police state. Its absolutely clear, without unequivocal doubt, that whoever planned this, has systematically won, and has committed genocide that is being written into the books of history as a victory. Freedom is a frame of mind
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07-21-2012, 11:43 PM	#4
Bennyweed1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,599	Oh wow, I never knew it even wast posted. When you submit stuff here it has to get approved by the moderator and I never knew it was approved! My mistake. I will still do this side by side now that I know this thread is here. I need a little time to get things arranged now. Ill post again when I am ready to do this. Good times. __________________ "Leave this world a better place than the way you found it." --------------------------------------------------- Some call me a conspiracy theorist, but the only thing I know to be true about 9/11 are the innocent people who lost their lives. Someday, we will have real justice. Someday the official story will be the conspiracy. Someday, you will have to be the one to shock the system Its said we were attacked because of our freedom, well it would appear, a decade later and some collective 1.5 million lives lost, that who ever "they are", have won, because AmerIkA is no longer free. NSA, TSA, FBI, CIA, DoD, BATF, DEA, DHS, BLM, USDA, FDA, IRS, and the emerging police state. Its absolutely clear, without unequivocal doubt, that whoever planned this, has systematically won, and has committed genocide that is being written into the books of history as a victory. Freedom is a frame of mind
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07-25-2012, 05:53 PM	#5
supermanlives Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: gilligans island Posts: 13,142	in my experience synthetics yield more , organics have better flavors and smells i cant match with chems.
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Rondelia Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pleiades Posts: 833	So? Any progress? What happened? ps I cant believe nobody answered in this thead yet..
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07-21-2012, 04:33 PM	#3
yerboyblue Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 526	Use a mix of both. That is the best.
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08-14-2012, 07:06 PM	#8
supermanlives Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: gilligans island Posts: 13,142	fox farms and pbp both mix chems and organics. with excellent results. it can be done.
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11-08-2012, 09:02 PM	#10
guyguy Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 71	What happened to this thread.. Are you no longer continuing with the experiment???
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