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Old 03-06-2012, 09:32 PM #1
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Ciao a tutti !


Ecco quello che da n po' mi balenava in mente , messo sotto Test !!!


Mi SPiego !!! Nel tempo ho notato che per la maggior parte delle varieta ' di sicuro , il carattere Autofiorente inizia a svilupparsi anche' con 20 ore di Luce , e 4 di buio !!!
E se mettiamo tutto a 24/24 ??????? Be' dopo diversi tentativi , il 90% delle Auto fiorenti che hoprovato con 24 ore di luce no vanno in fiore e possono crescere quanto una classic !!!

E per dimostrare questa teoria in definitiva che sono partito in altra Grow con un Amico con 5 Deimos Auto a 24/24
Growroom 1x1x2 mt
Lux Mh 400 in VEg Hps 400 in Flo

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Atami Grow
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Ed eccole a circa 22 gg dalla Nascita a 24 ore di luce !!! Effettuato un Lst per riempire lo spazio !!!










E' tutto per ora !
A presto ........
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molto interessante key da seguire,
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attendiamo con ansia gli sviluppi...

..anche se l' AF-master krull ci insegna che le af serie fioriscono anche con 24 ore di luce..
poi non saprei, non ho esperienza diretta, ma ho visto alcuni cicli 24/0 procedere sereni..

diciamo che fai leva su una "falla del sistema"...
solo la buddha seed bank si comporta così o anche altri breeder?

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io la deimos l'ho fatta anche ind000r e posso dirti che se gli dai 24\24 quel box esploderà di verde...anche senza lst produrrebbe grosse cime laterali che impiegheranno più di 90 gg per maturare...e...da quello che ricordo....temo che se non gli darai almeno 4 h di buio forse non inizieranno a fiorire mai.
comunque ti seguo...auguri
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secondo me in indoor fare le AF e' uno spreco,cioe' consumi troppa energia elettrica,per la resa inferiore che cmq hanno....,cmq sperimentare e' la chiave della conoscenza.
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bhè sè riesce a tenerle in vege x clonare è una gran svolta...viva la sperimentazioune
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ok, molto interessante, ma molto costoso. Se con 24/0 si riuscisse a non farle fiorire sarebbe forse meglio optare per un wattaggio inferiore imho
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.:|Cream Caramel and Black Jack - The new autoflowering strains by Sweet Seeds|:.
.:|Final Conclusions|:.



Hey mates!!! Here you go with the final conclusions...

A perfect grow, from the first day until right now that I'm vaporizing Cream Caramel Auto, hehehe, a delicious plant. Besides a CC Auto with 3 cotiledones and 3 branches per node (which in the end was the most productive), no other plant presented any deformity of deficiency of genetic origin. A Black Jack Auto had a couple of leaves a bit twisted in the beginning but after the 15 first days everything was perfect with her. No plagues, not even a single insect/bug. All 100% females and didn't present any male flower in the beginning of flowering nor any "banana" in the end of flowering. Completely unseeded, pure "sinsemilla".

This grow is characterized by its light cycle of 18/6, from germination to harvest and for the fast harvest in terms of time germination <-> harvest. A very fast grow, plants were harvested between day 64 and day 69, but as you could see they could have been harvested at day 62 with no problems. Production is very good for such a short time grow, I'm very surprised with its production and with the quality of the flowers. I wasn't expecting this. They got really fat in the end, the last 10 days I gave them were determinant and the buds almost doubled their size. I imagine someone harvesting this plants at day 57, would be a big mistake, so be careful... They are very fast but even when everything goes fine with them it is better to wait at least until day 62-65. Just a few more days can mean a big difference in terms of production.





Well, a while ago a friend of mine let me use his scale and so I'll share the final results with you...


Dry weight in grams of the 9 plants:

Black Jack Auto 1 > 22,1
Black Jack Auto 2 > 22,8
Black Jack Auto 3 > 23,0
Black Jack Auto 4 > 25,9

Cream Caramel Auto 1 > 24,5
Cream Caramel Auto 2 > 25,2
Cream Caramel Auto 3 > 31,0
Cream Caramel Auto 4 > 28,8
Cream Caramel Auto 5 > 29,4


To this I would add the hash of a dry extraction and the scissor hash:

Hash with net of 158µ > 2,5gr
Hash with net of 95µ > 1,9gr
Scissor hash > 0,6gr


Total: 232,7gr + 5gr of hash = 237,7gr


In terms of grams per square meter, getting 232gr in my space (1/3 of 1m2) is the same of getting 696gr in 1m2 (232 x 3). So I managed to be a bit above the numbers of the forecast for production shared by Sweet Seeds in the catalog:

Black Jack Auto: 400-550 gr/m2
Cream Caramel Auto: 350-500 gr/m2

But this with a 400wHPS in 60x60x120cm. With 250wHPS it would be a bit more difficult to exceed the numbers of the calatog.



.:|Comparing Autos and non-Autos|:.


I'll compare this autos with the non-autos from my previous grow because the grow parameters were all the same: 400wHPS, 9 pots of 7 litres, same soil brand, same extraction, same ferts and boosters, etc.

Here is the link for my previous grow: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=195990&page=5

In that previous grow I harvested a total of 212 grams.


The 9 non-auto from the link shared took 101 days from germination to harvest. From which 34 days of 18/6 and 67 days of 12/12.

34 x 18 = 612 hours with the lights on
67 x 12 = 804 hours with the lights on

Total = 612 + 804 = 1416 hours with the lights on


The 9 autos took 65 days since germination to harvest.

65 x 18 = 1170 hours with the lights on


1416 - 1170 = 246 hours of light saving with the autos


Conclusion: Less energy used, 35 days faster and more production...
non sottovaluterei la potenza delle autos
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DXTR ma che post mi hai tirato fuori? Il tipo è quadrato forte...

Interessante ragionamento!
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