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Old 03-05-2012, 01:14 AM   #1
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How to build a bubble cloner or should i buy one built

I was thinking on buying or building a bubble cloner. I seen a bubble cloner called oxycloner, It seems to be a container with a device that makes bubbles( not air stone) .now if i get a container and use a air pump and a fish air stone ,drill holes on top of lid and use neoprene inserts will this be a success ful way of make a cheap effective cloner ? I would alos use clonex solution in water.. id there are better idea out there please let me know . I would however like to stay away from making a aeroponic set up ,i dont want to have a cloner that gets to worm inside, i rather try and keep the water temp low and heat up if need be with a heat pad.

or should i just buy the oxyclone for like 59.00 bucks plus shipping of 13.00 bucks

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Build your own man. What your describing is exactly how I started my clones , and I had 100% success. Small Tupperware container cut holes lids and stuck em in the holes with a air stone in the bottom. Took about two weeks to get root nubs than finally roots.
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:34 AM   #3
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building your own is more fun and cheaper..
dont use clonex in a bubbler or aerocloner! dont use a heating pad, use a aquaristic heat stick (sorry im german^^)

heres an example of an aerocloner i made.


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^^^ very nice! Mine isn't near that nice.
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:55 AM   #5
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building your own is more fun and cheaper..
dont use clonex in a bubbler or aerocloner! dont use a heating pad, use a aquaristic heat stick (sorry im german^^)

heres an example of an aerocloner i made.
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I built one almost like yours i used different sprayer but it was on the same idea ,But it leaked to much from lid and it seems to get to warm . but it leaked so much that i never got a chance to see it produce roots. It was arubber maid container , did not know how to seal lid, so i canned project and said to hellwith it and started to do old style cloning,with gel and cubes , works well take a little bit long to make roots but 100% success rate, I want to produce root a bit faster than old school way
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Manage temps in aerocloners by cycling the pump on and off with a timer. Running a coupla airstones keeps the enviro in the cloner plenty wet.

Sometimes, when it's warm, I'll only be running the pump for 15min per hour. Stick a cheapo cooking thermometer through the lid and you'll always know what the temps are.

This is my 22 site bucket cloner, change the water every 3 days and yer good to go. Tap water works better than RO.











I cut the inserts out of a sheet of insulating foam, melt a hole through the center and cut a slit from the edge to the hole.

If you stick with the bubble cloner, temps are still key.

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Old 03-05-2012, 03:05 PM   #7
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Manage temps in aerocloners by cycling the pump on and off with a timer. Running a coupla airstones keeps the enviro in the cloner plenty wet.

Sometimes, when it's warm, I'll only be running the pump for 15min per hour. Stick a cheapo cooking thermometer through the lid and you'll always know what the temps are.

This is my 22 site bucket cloner, change the water every 3 days and yer good to go. Tap water works better than RO.

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I cut the inserts out of a sheet of insulating foam, melt a hole through the center and cut a slit from the edge to the hole.

If you stick with the bubble cloner, temps are still key.

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what size pump are you running through that? mine is setup pretty much the same, even the sprayer head design.. I'm only using a 160gph pump though which I feel is a tad small.. It does the job though.

I also used 2" neoprene pucks as the cutting holders.. the most you can fit in a 5 gal bucket lid is 16-17. Nice job on making your own holders
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:46 PM   #9
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I have 2 OxyCloner's....LOVE them....they are kind of cheaply built....BUT they DO last....
been running one for 6+ months 24/7....and the little buggers DO produce roots....VERY well
I have gotten VERY well rooted clones in 6 days....
that being said I use straight tap water.... changed every other day to stay clean....
the oxycloner ISNOT a aero cloner / mister.... or such...
It's much more of a perpetual under current system....
the little pump is submersible and has a extra feed of air directly to it to provide constant oxygenated water with steady movement....WORKS great ....

all that being said....U could build U'r own.... simple find the right container w/ lid black is best to block out light....
cut holes w/ hole saw... use neoprene collars.....
and source the smallest submersible pump u can find....
and U'll be up and running.....
for me that was too much work..... I just bought the oxycloner and got over the cost.... the first time I saw...........R00tZ........
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:11 PM   #10
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this is what i ended up doing, I built my own . I got a 5 gal bucket and found a special lid with holes made for neopreen inserts, then i got a air pump and a round air bubble disc . I set the clonex solution to 200ppm(advise from hydro store) and ph of 5.8. I made a 45 degree cut in clone,shaved the skin off a bit and dipped in root tech clone gel . I also did not submerge the stem i was told to just have it just above the water (advise from hydro store.
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I run mine with plain tap water only, don't even look at the ph, roots in 7 days every time.
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