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Old 02-24-2012, 09:29 AM #1
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10-12 years old seeds...

Hey all,

I got a jar of seeds that been kept for somthing like 12 years... the jar kept in room temp. for all this time, nothing like vacum or freezing for the seeds...
I wonder if there a good way to germinate those seeds ?

from 50 seeds that i tried to germinate only 3 came out and 1 died after 2 days...

any suggestions without buying new seeds ?
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:31 AM #2
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No !!!! Buy new seeds !!
Just kidding .. I would also like to know ..
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:56 AM #3
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I've been storing my seeds in the freezer since 1999. They still pop. I use the wet paper towel method but you can gently score the old seeds with fine sand paper in a matchbox before you put them into paper towels,
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:53 PM #4
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Look at this : http://www.popsci.com/science/articl...st-30000-years

You'r seeds will be ok
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:57 PM #5
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Seeds lose moisture over time so give them a good 24 hour soak in plain water before whatever process you prefer. Keep them warm while germing. I'd guess I get 80+% success on my old seeds, which are stored in a mason jar in my kitchen cupboard. My seeds range from maybe mid-90's to mid-00's.

Look around a bit, too. I know this has been discussed in the past but I don't have time to search ATM. Best of luck.
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my trick is a tupperware container...line the container with a small cloth(paper towel falls apart)

then put enough water to make sure there is left over water that does not get absorbed.

put seeds in, then fold cloth over, always making sure there is a little excess water in the tupperware container.

put the cover on it and seal it tight.


then put in on the refrigerator (for heat), then between 18 and 48 hours all or most of your seeds should be popped....


with this method i usually get 100% germ rate in less than 24 hours...


imo the reason this works so well is becaus the pressure in the container, the heat slowly evaps the water and the moisture has 0 place to go, this will create a small water pressure and the moisture will look to penetrate anywhere that is dry, including inside the dry seeds....so in a sense it "forces" the moisture in rather than wait for it to enter it like putting them in a glass of water....or other methods ppl use....


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Old 02-25-2012, 12:10 AM #7
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Because the seeds weren't stored in the freezer in airtight containers, there's no way he's getting 100% germ rates. He will be lucky if he gets 50% germ rates. If the seeds were kept in the freezer for those 12 years, you would have 80% - 90% germ rates. On my 13 year old seeds I have 90% germ rates but they were kept in the freezer the whole time in light tight / air sealed Ball Jars. The problem that he will most likely see is that the seeds will look like they popped but some may turn to mush. I have this happening to my Santa Marta Columbian Golds from 1974. It sucks but I'll get one of these to pop somehow.
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I bought an old "Dawrf tree kit" or better known as the Bonsai, the box was sealed and it was from 1968, none popped. Good luck though, its cool to find old seeds like 10+ years and have them pop, its almost like a fossil..
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The problem that he will most likely see is that the seeds will look like they popped but some may turn to mush. I have this happening to my Santa Marta Columbian Golds from 1974. It sucks but I'll get one of these to pop somehow.

This is what happend to me all the time... i see them cracking... but they all getting "black jelly" like...
Anyway I tryied soaking, place them in towel for 10 days and to leave them in the water for 48 hours... no luck with none of them...
I'm trying now to soak them with root juice for 24h and then to soak them in towel to see if there any luck...
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some people use kelp water or some seaweed in water for better germination
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some people use kelp water or some seaweed in water for better germination
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some people use kelp water or some seaweed in water for better germination
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