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Old 02-23-2012, 09:20 PM #1
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We have gone to hell in a handbasket!!!!!

https://rt.com/usa/news/torture-act-white-house-461/This is what I find so crazy about politics...they lie to our faces, and all we want, is to hear them singing with Mick Jagger. I know war is not pretty, and I know bad things are happening, that we are never told about. But, this means they can hold American citizens, that they say are linked to terrorism...then they are stripping our rights, even more, than they already have. I imagine, you are gonna get some smarty pants DA, that will link a grower to terrorism, I mean they do say drugs fund terrorism....and the poor grower will be detained indefinitely, because of this law. I think it is so uncool for politicians to lie over and over again.....I have no faith in the system, and no respect for the politicians. I know my vote doesn't count, despite what I have been told. I am tired of having my rights violated by my government, and I feel helpless to do anything about it!!!
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:24 PM #2
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This was not at the behest of our blues singing president, this one is squarely on the shoulders of the congress.
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Man you guys are in trouble something has to be done. why is there not more people in the streets protesting this and every other infringement on your beloved constitution?
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This was not at the behest of our blues singing president, this one is squarely on the shoulders of the congress.
Actually yes it was...he specifically asked for those provisions in ndaa then said he would not sign it then waited a week and signed it new years day. Those are facts.
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This was not at the behest of our blues singing president, this one is squarely on the shoulders of the congress.
He said he would veto it.
Then he signed it on New Year's Eve to avoid scrutiny.
He said he signed it with "reservations." (Which is politician for "I have no balls.")
He said he would never detain American citizens.

Nice threat. "I won't use those powers, but the next president might. If you don't want your ass indefinitely detained you better vote for me."

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