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Old 12-18-2014, 09:17 AM #221
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also sorry blwoig up this page loll but you say run off u can test the water run off from cups to get accurate ph mesure or is it better to use soil tester itself?
My bad, I wasn't thinking your girls are in cups. Good thing you mentioned FFOF, because that's what I've been using. I just found out that FFOF gets more acidic as it gets older, which I didn't know till after I destroyed my first grow. It's possible you picked up an older bag. I ask now when new shipments are in, and then try to grab one on the bottom or the back of the lot.

The best thing you can do is flush, but they're so young and in cups there's nothing to flush. Maybe see if you can get some powdered dolomite lime, mix it in with the FFOF you got, and replant them in larger pots.

I'm not saying your FFOF is too acidic, but that's pretty much the way my last grow went. You'll get a nice harvest, just not the harvest you want.

FYI, this time around I couldn't be asking for anything better, and the FF liquid nutes are working too. I'm growing indoors. Let me know how it turns out.
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My bad, I wasn't thinking your girls are in cups. Good thing you mentioned FFOF, because that's what I've been using. I just found out that FFOF gets more acidic as it gets older, which I didn't know till after I destroyed my first grow. It's possible you picked up an older bag. I ask now when new shipments are in, and then try to grab one on the bottom or the back of the lot.

The best thing you can do is flush, but they're so young and in cups there's nothing to flush. Maybe see if you can get some powdered dolomite lime, mix it in with the FFOF you got, and replant them in larger pots.

I'm not saying your FFOF is too acidic, but that's pretty much the way my last grow went. You'll get a nice harvest, just not the harvest you want.

FYI, this time around I couldn't be asking for anything better, and the FF liquid nutes are working too. I'm growing indoors. Let me know how it turns out.
That's it I'll have to remember that myself the soil I used was about year old how can i save them ? Water less or more tap water here is 7.0. Ph should I throw some of that in?
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:57 PM #223
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Hmm would u suggest mixing in foxfarm reg soil ? Jesus I hope I don't kill all my baby's these are all limited edition DNA genes I'm not to worried tho cuase it seems to have stopped
But ya I'm switching to fox farm original do we know what's in the ocean forest that make sit act this was cuase I generally like the mix guano, earthworm castings, I believe fish meal wondering maybe I'll make my own mix just less acidic that mean low ph yes?
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I got nutrients set to house and garden all the way I got some rock nutes going to run those in Dwc systems I don't plan on harvesting these guys I'm gonna mother them to make clones those are gonna be the ones I grow out then harvest
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That's it I'll have to remember that myself the soil I used was about year old how can i save them ? Water less or more tap water here is 7.0. Ph should I throw some of that in?
The year old soil is what's doing it. My water is also 7.0 Ph, but no matter how high the Ph was when I watered, it was a constant uphill battle. That's why I suggest mixing in powdered dolomite if you are going to use that FFOF soil. I never did anything once I had replanted them in the 5 gal. pots, so that's why I'm suggesting you avoid the problems I had. You could also buy granulated dolomite lime, and grind it up yourself, or even better, get a new bag of soil when you transplant them.

Your girls still look great as far as I can see, but as they get bigger, the soil will also be older, and in flowering you don't want all that acidity This time around, I took some of my leftover FFOF mix and put it in the bottom of the pots, and covered that with the new soil. As I said, these ladies are doing great Happy tokin'.

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thanks tommy many thanks my friend will give report on if problem cleared up or worsened
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my last question is should I stay away from ocean forest or should I just use the regular red bag instead
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I've only used FFOF, so I can't say. I'm happy with the OF because I got it right this 2nd time around. I'm not even sure what the difference in the two is? Haven't seen the red bag in any of the stores here, but I'm near the ocean and maybe OF is more for humid climates. Would like to see those picks in a month's time. Good luck buddy!
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I've only used FFOF, so I can't say. I'm happy with the OF because I got it right this 2nd time around. I'm not even sure what the difference in the two is? Haven't seen the red bag in any of the stores here, but I'm near the ocean and maybe OF is more for humid climates. Would like to see those picks in a month's time. Good luck buddy!
im near ocean here to buddy lol I think near the same ocean

the difference im reading are their other bags are ph balanced and ocean forest dosent have ph balance

red bag actually has same accept for few things I believe
example worm castings /BAT GUANO
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Both those ingredients are in the Ocean Forest as well, so it's got to be the Ph. In that case maybe you'll want to use the red bag, because trying to balance everything out after they popped was pretty much a futile effort.

So you're either in Oz, or around the corner from me Tis the season to be growing if you're Downunder huh?
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