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thekill · 04-29-2004, 06:21 PM

i have some mtf beans that i am trying to germ.
I can not seem to get them to pop open. The seeds look good, they are fresh but none will pop open. The shell is very hard and seems to be stopping the tap root from coming through. I have read about scaring the out side of the shell to make it softer but need some advice on wether or not this works.

JLP · 04-29-2004, 07:09 PM

Have you tried putting them in a glass of water?

Sometimes this softens the casing better than the paper towel method.

JLP

thekill · 04-29-2004, 07:15 PM

yes i tried that with no luck ......the shells wont crack....it makes me mad it is my own backcross of mantanuskan mist from sagarmatha .....they are probaly just imature or junk...thanks for the help though

.........ps let me know how that dj thing is goin

KGB47 · 04-30-2004, 01:08 AM

You soaked them in distilled water for 24 hours and still no dice?
That sucks bro, you could add a little "Super Thrive" to the water and see what happens.Good luck.

04-30-2004, 01:22 AM

Thats my approach KGB

I soak for 24 in a dilution of distilled water and superthrive. Caution on the superthrive it's potent stuff. I only put a small drop. You could probably just get a little on the end of your finger and touch the top of the water in the shot glass.

The good seeds sink within 12 hours at the max. Some will sink as soon as they hit the water. Just tap the floating seeds every once in a while to break surface tension. They'll sink if viable.

After 24 they are into a non bleach coffee filter or same paper towel. I had an LSD with a taproot out onetime in about three hours. A couple a days for most to get a good tap root

Good luck.

If talkin nice to them does't work, cuss at them a little, maybe that will kick'em in gear

Texas Kid

GreatLakes THC · 04-30-2004, 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by Texas Kid
If talkin nice to them does't work, cuss at them a little, maybe that will kick'em in gear

TheKill, these guys know what they're talking about. Just keep at it and sooner or later something will pop.

Texas Kid that was hilarious,
GreatLakes THC

thekill · 04-30-2004, 06:11 AM

thanks to all and i will try the 24 hour soak again maybe the 36 hour soak even :p

Hey great lakes you aren't the only one near them lakes that are great.......gotta love that fresh water fishing......

GreatLakes THC · 04-30-2004, 06:16 AM

When I was over at OG it seemed like I was the only one from this area. For that reason I didn't post much, but being here at this site I'm finding out that I'm not alone. There's a lot of growers in this area. It's a wonderful feeling to know you're not alone. Good luck with the beans.

GreatLakes THC

docker · 04-30-2004, 06:18 PM

too much water squeeze one and smell it,good luck

funker · 04-30-2004, 08:04 PM

I knew I should have taken pictures...

I just germed 5 dif varieties from SD catalogue. All 100% germ rate with the above methods.

Some seeds can take forever to pop. Its just the genetics. Out of all of the dif varieties I was germing, the skunk #1 was the slowest (6 days!).

Like said before, if your seeds don't sink within 12 hours in a cup of warm water (after a little tappa-tappa) then you probably have air instead of embryos.

Gluck mate. Those sound like fine genetics, i hope it works out for you in the end.

-funker

EDIT: Hey guys, live on one of the lakes myself

04-30-2004, 01:08 AM	#4
KGB47 "It's just a flesh wound" Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,087	You soaked them in distilled water for 24 hours and still no dice? That sucks bro, you could add a little "Super Thrive" to the water and see what happens.Good luck. __________________ "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government".....
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04-30-2004, 06:16 AM	#8
GreatLakes THC an Arthur P. Jacobs production Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Where the Neons turn to Woods Posts: 3,219	So true... When I was over at OG it seemed like I was the only one from this area. For that reason I didn't post much, but being here at this site I'm finding out that I'm not alone. There's a lot of growers in this area. It's a wonderful feeling to know you're not alone. Good luck with the beans. GreatLakes THC __________________ Reggae Makossa Groovin'
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04-30-2004, 06:18 PM	#9
docker New Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4	probably rotten now too much water squeeze one and smell it,good luck Last edited by docker; 04-30-2004 at 06:30 PM..
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04-30-2004, 08:04 PM	#10
funker Dankslave Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 231	I knew I should have taken pictures... I just germed 5 dif varieties from SD catalogue. All 100% germ rate with the above methods. Some seeds can take forever to pop. Its just the genetics. Out of all of the dif varieties I was germing, the skunk #1 was the slowest (6 days!). Like said before, if your seeds don't sink within 12 hours in a cup of warm water (after a little tappa-tappa) then you probably have air instead of embryos. Gluck mate. Those sound like fine genetics, i hope it works out for you in the end. -funker EDIT: Hey guys, live on one of the lakes myself __________________ Untruth is a condition of life.
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04-29-2004, 06:21 PM	#1
thekill New Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: USA Posts: 15	low germination rates i have some mtf beans that i am trying to germ. I can not seem to get them to pop open. The seeds look good, they are fresh but none will pop open. The shell is very hard and seems to be stopping the tap root from coming through. I have read about scaring the out side of the shell to make it softer but need some advice on wether or not this works.
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04-29-2004, 07:09 PM	#2
JLP Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 21 Jump St. Posts: 1,130	Have you tried putting them in a glass of water? Sometimes this softens the casing better than the paper towel method. JLP
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04-29-2004, 07:15 PM	#3
thekill New Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: USA Posts: 15	yes i tried that with no luck ......the shells wont crack....it makes me mad it is my own backcross of mantanuskan mist from sagarmatha .....they are probaly just imature or junk...thanks for the help though .........ps let me know how that dj thing is goin
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04-30-2004, 01:22 AM	#5
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Thats my approach KGB I soak for 24 in a dilution of distilled water and superthrive. Caution on the superthrive it's potent stuff. I only put a small drop. You could probably just get a little on the end of your finger and touch the top of the water in the shot glass. The good seeds sink within 12 hours at the max. Some will sink as soon as they hit the water. Just tap the floating seeds every once in a while to break surface tension. They'll sink if viable. After 24 they are into a non bleach coffee filter or same paper towel. I had an LSD with a taproot out onetime in about three hours. A couple a days for most to get a good tap root Good luck. If talkin nice to them does't work, cuss at them a little, maybe that will kick'em in gear Texas Kid
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04-30-2004, 06:11 AM	#7
thekill New Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: USA Posts: 15	thanks to all and i will try the 24 hour soak again maybe the 36 hour soak even :p Hey great lakes you aren't the only one near them lakes that are great.......gotta love that fresh water fishing......
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