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Old 02-06-2012, 08:42 PM #1
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Question LED light too strong..

I have built LED light and used 15 and 30 degree lenses.
So moved new plant in and it looks like she doesn't like it.


Plant is in new cupboard only 3 days and this brown spots had developed roughly in 24 hour period.

Can 15and 30 degree lenses at the 350mm distance from a plant cause light burn ??
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:04 PM #2
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leaf burn starts at the leaf edges, and is even. the leaf will also curl upwards. this looks like thrips or some magnesium lock-out.
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leaf burn starts at the leaf edges, and is even. the leaf will also curl upwards. this looks like thrips or some magnesium lock-out.
What is Thrips?

I have added revive+ but my concern is that they went from all green to this state in 24 hours(roughly).

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Old 02-07-2012, 12:50 AM #4
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What watt diodes are you using? The optics are the issue most likely... 15 and 30 degrees are too narrow, focusing too many photons in too narrow a beam.. try a 60 or 90 degree lens instead
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I'd vote for LED burn

You will need to move those lights away from the plants to see if it stops getting worse and your internodial space is extremly tight. I found that this can reduce harvest.

A little more Mg could be of use too, LED plants tend to like it.
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What spec, and what brand diodes are you using... There are no reports for the plant you wish to grow... Im testesting many diffrent leds and I have found that the plant needs all the 400 and forsure the 600 for flower.... Im currently trying to find out witch spect oes what.. the plant requires a far red, blue and a toych of white to flower and i dont know why
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Old 02-07-2012, 07:37 PM #7
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Well it is getting worst :-/
Problem is that I have only 30 degree lenses so I can swap all 15 degree ones for 30 degree ones or don't use any at that small space ?
My cab is 300mm x 250mm x 750mm.
I have 5 spectrum light with 100Watts of draw(meassured) the light intensity with lenses is sitting at 15 000 lumens 600mm from a light source.
Is that overkill ??? :-/

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Old 02-07-2012, 07:41 PM #8
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I'd vote for LED burn

You will need to move those lights away from the plants to see if it stops getting worse and your internodial space is extremly tight. I found that this can reduce harvest.

A little more Mg could be of use too, LED plants tend to like it.
I have added Revive=can aid in correcting metallic mineral deficiencies as well as most common nutrient lock out.

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If you can get your LED's down pretty close to the plant and still have adequate coverage, I would give that a try with the optics removed. I have been running my hybrid fixture 3"-4" (75-100mm) from the tops of the plants, and it has been working great. I am using Osram Golden Dragon +, which have a 170 degree viewing angle.

I would be very cautious using any lens less than 60 degrees. I have a Lumigrow ES330 fixture, which uses 90 degree lenses and 5 watt LEDs, and it was causing damage at 12" (300mm).
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If you can get your LED's down pretty close to the plant and still have adequate coverage, I would give that a try with the optics removed. I have been running my hybrid fixture 3"-4" (75-100mm) from the tops of the plants, and it has been working great. I am using Osram Golden Dragon +, which have a 170 degree viewing angle.

I would be very cautious using any lens less than 60 degrees. I have a Lumigrow ES330 fixture, which uses 90 degree lenses and 5 watt LEDs, and it was causing damage at 12" (300mm).
I have remowed all lenses so fingers cross
I'm using just chinese leds with 120 degree angle that's why I have used so narrow lenses. Let's see what sort of penetration they will have without lenses.
Would 90 degree lenses work in my small cab ???

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