[RulaTone]

Hei nore
Did you use all five cans for 50g trim?
about silicone and bho read this:
https://skunkpharmresearch.com/spray...silicone-mats/

GrayWolf is on IC he is the guy to talk to

I would never store bho on those pads..
Ptfe sounds better also for spraying directly on it but i still prefer pyrex.
Anyway im out of the solvent game rosin wins bho 10 - 1

[noreason]

Originally Posted by RulaTone

Hei nore
Did you use all five cans for 50g trim?

Total they was 58 grams and a can (or maybe two) was half empty because of the butane torch and so on...however something still is in there, so I guess some more solvent would be better, what do you think?

about silicone and bho read this:
https://skunkpharmresearch.com/spray...silicone-mats/
GrayWolf is on IC he is the guy to talk to

Yeah I know, he is the last user who replied before you, and always thanks to GW for sharing knowledge

The link you posted is a good one, as all the other on that wp blog but the thing here is not spraying on pads but storing extract in silicone pads. I never sprayed on silicone and I never will.

I would never store bho on those pads..

May I ask why? I'm interested if there can be some kind of reaction between oleoresin and silicone or something I dont't know.
They would be very very useful for storing pretty large quantities/qualities of bho. Petri dishes are a pain in the ass imho and I still didn't find anything I really like to store it.

Ptfe sounds better also for spraying directly on it but i still prefer pyrex.

Sorry bro, if you don't mind can you explain me why?

Anyway im out of the solvent game rosin wins bho 10 - 1

If YOU are telling me this...I have to consider it!
I tried rosin, various of them... but I didn't like so much...so much better an AA for me, especially for the smoother smoke.
Why do you think it's so much better? I would love if you can elaborate why.
My thoughts were, and actually are, that rosin contains waxes...pretty a lot, is that true?
Winterizing out waxes using solvents makes a smoother extract when vaporized, isn'it?

Thanks in advance

[noreason]

After the extract was moved on silicone pad and purge starts again

[noreason]

Freezed, chipped a bit and vacuumed again. Noticed some more tendency to bubble out following fractures.
I was thinking on freezing it, reducing it into powder and try to vacuum it in this form, with increased surface area due to powder form. Any input guys?

[mr vuoto]

if there can be some kind of reaction between oleoresin and silicone or something I dont't know.

i've red somewhere that lab tests show how storing live resins with high % of terpenes (solvents) in the silicon pads increases the contaminants in the final extract.

[noreason]

Originally Posted by mr vuoto

i've red somewhere that lab tests show how storing live resins with high % of terpenes (solvents) in the silicon pads increases the contaminants in the final extract.

That is my fear. Can't you remember where you read those results or the company name who made the tests?

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by noreason

That is my fear. Can't you remember where you read those results or the company name who made the tests?

The terpenes are (alkene) aromatic hydrocarbons.

I haven't seen the tests being referenced, but if you look at the Cole Palmer chemical compatibility site, it shows silicone rubber and aromatic hydrocarbons to be a poor match.

https://www.coleparmer.com/Chemical-Resistance

[noreason]

Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

The terpenes are (alkene) aromatic hydrocarbons.

I haven't seen the tests being referenced, but if you look at the Cole Palmer chemical compatibility site, it shows silicone rubber and aromatic hydrocarbons to be a poor match.

https://www.coleparmer.com/Chemical-Resistance

Great one, thanks bro, I will put aside that idea. Where do you store yours if you don't mind?

[mr vuoto]

You guys living in US should check for real results we can just report what we can read/find around the internet from your works, anyway i know there is a big discussion going on these days about this. Lot of ppl say when thc-a crystallization happens in a ultra terpy extract the liquid terpenes rich part can dissolve the silicone .
UNFORTUNATELY in the extracts we make/see/smoke most of the times in Europe the concentration of terpenes is not enough to dissolve silicone.

[RulaTone]

Originally Posted by noreason

Total they was 58 grams and a can (or maybe two) was half empty because of the butane torch and so on...however something still is in there, so I guess some more solvent would be better, what do you think?

for that quantity of trim i would use 2 cans and a half (20g each), increasing solvent contact time with the material will likely lead to more contaminants in the extract. i make you an example: even tho butane is highly non-polar and wont extract water-solubles, if you use enough you still can extract the "green" color. obviously theres still something in there but the gold comes out after the first wash in my opinion because of the great solubility. you are always in time to do a second wash.
also the more canned butane you use the more mistery oil will end up in the extract so i like to use just the strictly indispensible solvent.



Yeah I know, he is the last user who replied before you, and always thanks to GW for sharing knowledge
yup all i know about extract is thanks to him!

The link you posted is a good one, as all the other on that wp blog but the thing here is not spraying on pads but storing extract in silicone pads. I never sprayed on silicone and I never will.



May I ask why? I'm interested if there can be some kind of reaction between oleoresin and silicone or something I dont't know.
They would be very very useful for storing pretty large quantities/qualities of bho. Petri dishes are a pain in the ass imho and I still didn't find anything I really like to store it.

you have already been covered on this, thanks guys.
i have always preferred pyrex glass for storage, and you can get artsy with it! *



Sorry bro, if you don't mind can you explain me why?

just what im used to, no rocket science behind it


If YOU are telling me this...I have to consider it!
I tried rosin, various of them... but I didn't like so much...so much better an AA for me, especially for the smoother smoke.
Why do you think it's so much better? I would love if you can elaborate why.
My thoughts were, and actually are, that rosin contains waxes...pretty a lot, is that true?
Winterizing out waxes using solvents makes a smoother extract when vaporized, isn'it?

Thanks in advance

i dont really know how much waxes rosin contains, i speculate much less than bho, and if i have to judge just by my throat theres really low quantity of plant waxes in it. ive seen many flower rosin analysises and never seen that high percentage of waxes. if you mean parchment paper waxes yes, their present especially if a "poor" paper is used. You can still winterize your rosin extract and see for yourself, i think if premium flowers are used waxes will be minimal.
I prefer rosin for the simple reason i dont have to mess with explosive chemicals and for me is much easier to do. Also i like "just made" extracts and not stored, to me rosin is the perfect expression of this, you just "juice" what you need at the moment and enjoy extract in full freshness. To me extract are like orange juice, "just made" is much better for me.
i've seen resins wich are hard to store without having them buddering, others will stay glassy for a long period of time, propably is the composition and cannabinoid/terpenes/waxes rateo of each one to determine its buddering time.
after all i dont really dislike butane extracts and will gladly smoke them, if done with care and knowledge they are sublime!