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Old 01-19-2012, 02:14 AM #1
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Soil grow, do u flush?

By flushing I don't mean drowning the plants in water but more like do u guys stop feeding and just water with plain water up until harvest, or do u feed up until harvest? Is there a difference? Tomorrow is the last day im watering the ladies then on Saturday it's chop time so I was thinking if I feed them one last time tomorrow will I benefit from it and will the smoke be harsh or anything? I have been watering them with straight water for 2 weeks now. Was thinking of feeding them some nutes tomorrow and see if I can get them to pack on any more weight until Saturday?
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Old 01-19-2012, 02:27 AM #2
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By flushing I don't mean drowning the plants in water but more like do u guys stop feeding and just water with plain water up until harvest, or do u feed up until harvest? Is there a difference? Tomorrow is the last day im watering the ladies then on Saturday it's chop time so I was thinking if I feed them one last time tomorrow will I benefit from it and will the smoke be harsh or anything? I have been watering them with straight water for 2 weeks now. Was thinking of feeding them some nutes tomorrow and see if I can get them to pack on any more weight until Saturday?
My grows are water only in a living soil, so I'm effectively "flushing" throughout the entire grow. The only other inputs they may (or may not) get is is an application or two of a tea....comfrey/nettles/yarrow depending on whatever is fermenting at the time. I may give them a crude compost tea/slurry with vermicompost but that's basically it.

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Old 01-19-2012, 02:43 AM #3
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I feed fish emulsion fortnightly til flower and then foliar spray weekly with high calcium/potash thereafter.

in between times I water when the leaves begin to droop. and when I water it's a BIG one! like a flush so that the draining water sucks oxygen into the soil for the roots.

but sounds like yr doing ok. harshness of smoke shouldn't depend on yr watering schedule (well, never noticed mine has).

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You really need to specify what type of soil you are using and what method you are using it in. Pots of soil, soil bed, what method? That will make a difference in how you treat your watering habits.

I grow in a bed method that doesn't use a drain. Flushing is impossible for me. The only way for something to leave is through the plants and evaporation.

If you are growing in a commercially available organic soil product in a typical pot, I would flush at the end of runs. Especially if you are not reusing soil.
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:53 AM #5
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:54 AM #6
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In organic soil the plant "flushes" itself as it dies. Yes you can impart bad flavors by watering in fishy stuff late in flower, but thats extreme. In general if you just keep the soil food web happy in your pots, the plant will do the rest for ya. Basically they just start dieing, somehow the soil life knows this and goes dormant..then voila a beautiful yellow (maybe) plant ready for chop.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:46 AM #7
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+1 sean; no flush ever

wetting a livinng soil to the level of runoff=over-water
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Flush oragic soil = dry it out. Plant will feed as long as the microherd lives. The point is to force the plant to use its reserves. No water - NOTHING 3-5 days pre-harvest. No moisture kills the herd...forces reserve usage.


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Old 01-19-2012, 09:10 AM #9
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If growing in a living soil flushing it with excessive water or drying it out is harmful to that life. As Mad has said the plant is not just a straw that sucks up all nutrients. This is controlled by the plant if growing naturally.
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if you are feeding with liquid nutes then cut all nutrients off 2 weeks before harvest. with liquid nutrients there are insoluble as well as soluble the soluble nutes are readily available and will be used by the plant as long as it is fed to them the insoluble nutes are broken down by the beneficial organisms you have bred in the soil and then they feed it to the plant either way you want your herb with as little nutrients in the bud as possible so always feed straight water for the last two weeks prior to harvest. have fun and the best of luck to u.
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I flush, sometimes I give a common courtesy flush when in a public bathroom.

On the real, if you take what MM just said wouldn't that be flushing? If you kill all the microbes that are feeding the plant, wont that "flush" out any nutes built up in the plant? Maybe some strong chlorinated water would do the trick. This would only apply if you didn't want to keep the soil alive, a one time harvest in the soil.
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:11 AM #12
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Those who believe they can flush compounds from the plant tissue are sorely mistaken.
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guys, before some of you get on your high horses about flushing, LIFER clearly defined what he meant by that in his first post -

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By flushing I don't mean drowning the plants in water but more like do u guys stop feeding and just water with plain water up until harvest, or do u feed up until harvest? Is there a difference?
most people would just use water for the last week or two rather than adding any extra food, and as mentioned it's good to try and let the soil dry a bit out before harvest.

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By flushing I don't mean drowning the plants in water but more like do u guys stop feeding and just water with plain water up until harvest, or do u feed up until harvest? Is there a difference? Tomorrow is the last day im watering the ladies then on Saturday it's chop time so I was thinking if I feed them one last time tomorrow will I benefit from it and will the smoke be harsh or anything? I have been watering them with straight water for 2 weeks now. Was thinking of feeding them some nutes tomorrow and see if I can get them to pack on any more weight until Saturday?
I do things a little differently from others. I do stop almost all feeding about 2-3 weeks prior to planned chop, but they always get some sugars with the water. Molasses, malted barley extract, panocha/panela, date sugar, palm sugar. I go for a low saturation solution. This helps me achieve the fade I'm after, because I don't want the plants to be very green at harvest.
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