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Old 01-03-2012, 04:11 PM #1
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Where is CBD produced?

Is CBD produced in the capitate stalked trichomes, like THC, or is it somewhere else? For example, in a high CBD strain, what are the methods for making a hash that preserves the qualities of the strain?

I know that with bubble some size heads give different effects from the same strain, especially on hybrids.

I have always been under the impression that CBD was a fat soluble oil in the plant, and THC was in the trichomes, based on the fact that I have made cannabutter from material that was "hashed" and it produced a much sleepier, narcotic effect, hence I figured this was from the CBD, or residual THC that had degraded to CBD. This was my assumption based on my limited info at the time from reading Jorge's book.

I have searched and found outdated info on the subject, and with the new research about CBD, I was hoping someone could lead me in the right direction for furthur reading.
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its genetic.

Unless you have a mixed phenotype, your hash has very little if any cbd in it.
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Is CBD produced in the capitate stalked trichomes, like THC, or is it somewhere else? For example, in a high CBD strain, what are the methods for making a hash that preserves the qualities of the strain?

I know that with bubble some size heads give different effects from the same strain, especially on hybrids.

I have always been under the impression that CBD was a fat soluble oil in the plant, and THC was in the trichomes, based on the fact that I have made cannabutter from material that was "hashed" and it produced a much sleepier, narcotic effect, hence I figured this was from the CBD, or residual THC that had degraded to CBD. This was my assumption based on my limited info at the time from reading Jorge's book.

I have searched and found outdated info on the subject, and with the new research about CBD, I was hoping someone could lead me in the right direction for furthur reading.
Both cbd and thc are fat soluable and produced throughout the plant, they are produced by essentially the same enzyme system just differentiated by a final enzyme. CBN is the degredation product of thc you are probably thinking of. The concentrations of thc are highest in the trichomes which are modified plant hairs designed to protect the plant from predators or environment. To get the whole cannabinoid profile just make bho or use my favorite supercritical co2 for the ultimate experience. I love supercritical co2 extraction as the waxes pulled by butane are less prevelent and the flavor and effect are insanely clean.
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:17 PM #4
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its genetic.

Unless you have a mixed phenotype, your hash has very little if any cbd in it.
My question is, if you have a high cbd strain, and collect the trichome heads, will they be high cbd, or will there be a lower amount of trichomes because they are all THC.

Also, it is CBN I was thinking of. All these years I have focused on THC and terpenes, never really looked too far into the properties other cannabinoids. I fig'd I would start here, hoping to be directed to some recent articles.
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They grow separately but in the same area as THC. They do not have stalks on them. If you look under a scope you can see them they have small heads with no stalks. If you removed allot of the THC you would have a high CBD smoke. CBD is not psychoactive it is a anti inflammatory.
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So in theory at least, a high cbd strain would produce hash on one layer of an 8 bag kit with the cbd rich trichomes, as long as they manage to break off of the leaf, which in theory would require more agitation because there is no stalk so the bond with the leaf will be tighter.

I am just curious how introducing high cbd strains will affect hash production, and is there a way to get a non psychoactive hash to concentrate the anti inflammatory effects of these strains, or as I have always suspected, you can harvest the THC off the buds as bubble hash and then the dissolve the CBD into cannabutter because the CBD sticks to the leaves more, and hence requires some form of solvent to be extracted.
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I dont think we have the means to remove only CBD. in a lab im sure they could do that. those guys beat the plant to get hash. I dont think there getting much CBD out of it. The concentration of CBD even in strains that are high in CBD is so small that it would take allot of material to get something..
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i think the only way to know would be to chemically test it.

maybe harvesting at different times as the biosyth in the plant takes different times to react. but since its the same mechanism in the plant i would assume the trichomes don't differ much between thc and cbd.
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The cells in the trichomes make what they are told to make. This is a small enzyme difference, from a small genetic difference. Is it just that simple? Yes. Ditchweed trichomes and AK47 trichomes are the same. In cannabinoid-free plants, the trichomes are normal except they lack the volume that would be filled by cannabinoids.

No mechanism is known for making and storing cannabinoids and terpenes, except in certain trichomes.
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They grow separately but in the same area as THC. They do not have stalks on them. If you look under a scope you can see them they have small heads with no stalks. If you removed allot of the THC you would have a high CBD smoke. CBD is not psychoactive it is a anti inflammatory.
i dont know about this. those head you see are "sessile trichomes" or immature trichomes that havent grown a stalk, and are low in both thc and cbd

i would assume cbd is produced in the trichomes heads like thc is..but i dunno
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