[Hempsmoke]

Originally Posted by Midnight;4878866
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Looks like some badass thrips damage

[Midnight]

Originally Posted by Hempsmoke

Looks like some badass thrips damage

Nope, not thrips, it is the dreaded fucking borg. These cats don't know what they are up against. Much respect but you will not kill this bug. A complete room tear down and nuking is all that will work.

[Grow Tech]

Originally Posted by Midnight

Nope, not thrips, it is the dreaded fucking borg. These cats don't know what they are up against. Much respect but you will not kill this bug. A complete room tear down and nuking is all that will work.

hey midnight,
..I hear ya but maybe it comes down to what you call success. Before I applied predator mites in my flowering room I found Broad Mites on every single plant I looked at. Over the last couple days I have spent a good chunk of time going through my plants with the scope. I did not find a single living Broad Mite. Are there any left hiding that I didnt see..? I'd bet yes but there's also a population of predator mites that are searching for their next meal. As long as I keep vigilant with my pest scouting, I'll know if the broad mite population returns to a level that requires further action. In commercial ag it's refered to as economic threshold.

As far as the nursery goes & chem treatments... Storms point about not creating Super Broad Mites was spot on. I'm going to continue throwing different things at them all the way through veg. Will I completely eradicate them?...who knows. I do know that the population I had ran unchecked for months and with some initial treatments I've knocked them back to the point that my plants are starting to look healthy. I've been taught a lesson about the need to look at my plants with a scope on a very regular basis.

Supposedly this pest is more common in your neck of the woods. They don't like heat which we got here in SoCal. From the look of the plant you put out doors, you're populations are WAY higher than what I'm seeing. I can tell you that I would put a flame thrower to the plant you pictured. You've got a thriving pest hatchery going if the damage is that bad.

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all this said, I won't be sharing any cuts with friends without them knowing I'm dealing with the "new herpes" called Broad Mites

[ghostnugz]

ive been dealing with these mites the last 3 months now. seen my plants go from very very healthy to damn near dead in less than a few weeks. midnight, what youre showing on those leaves is not consistent with broadmite damage that ive been witnessing. they dont scar the leave tissue white like that. their saliva is toxic and causes the leaves to blister, crack, dry n eventually die. i suspect you have the dread two spotted spider aka the super borg aka spider mites on the juice. broad and cyclamen mites are in a different catergory than the two spotted but still will wreck your whole garden in no time. good luck.

got all my plants sprayed down last night with spinosad @60ml and few drops of dynagro protekt. wasnt shy and blasted the new growth with lots of water. got right up on as much of the new growth i could and gave it a heavy spray. after checking lots of leaves i only noticed a couple survivors. seemed to have killed a lot on contact. i know theres more hiding. gonna invest in some predator mites(thanks gt!) so i have something else in my arsenal to fight these little terrors.

[Grow Tech]

Originally Posted by ghostnugz

gonna invest in some predator mites(thanks gt!) so i have something else in my arsenal to fight these little terrors.

Just remember that any sprays you use ( including residues ) will probably be toxic to the predators too. When you order the mites they suggest immediate release upon arrival. Just keep your timing in mind...
Also, the predators I suggested like humidity. They'll survive as low as 40% but I've been using a humidifier to raise mine. I've got good ventilation in my room but still a little nervous about growing mildew. The humidifier will be gone well before bud rot is a concern.

Treatment Update
I dunked my plants ( head first, not the root ball) into Dyna-Gro neem yesterday. I have done a through inspection of 2 plants and found no crawlers. I'll be going thorugh more plants later. I like dunking for coverage & IMO less danger to the applicant but Neem is probably better used out of a sprayer.

[Midnight]

Originally Posted by Grow Tech

hey midnight,
.. I can tell you that I would put a flame thrower to the plant you pictured. You've got a thriving pest hatchery going if the damage is that bad.

lol, I feel like hitting myself with a flame thrower if I go near them. I have had them outside for about two weeks now and the cold has seriously slowed them down. I was just going to bury them but I thought I'd let them go and se what the cold does to the mite. Good luck man, I really hope you can get a handle on them without resorting to the measures I have done. All I know is that controlling them is not an option for me, those little fuckers have to die and my room MUST be clean and free of them. I am going to start a grow in there in about a day or so and I quess I'll find out soon enough if my efforts paid off.

[Storm Shadow]

Originally Posted by Grow Tech

Hey Storm, What brand Triple Action neem are you using. When I do searchs I see one thats 70% Neem & 30% other ingredients. There's also something out there alled Triple Action Plus II that has 70% Neem, .25% Pyrethrins & 2.5% Piperonyl Buloxide.

https://www.southernag.com/docs/labels_msds/Neem-pt.pdf

Update: I spent considerable time searching for survivors, and I have found none. Woo hoo! I love Avid! I did notice that in my clone domes, the plants closest to the no-pest strips were beginning to yellow, so I removed the strips just to be sure they were not overdosing and having some negative issues. No signs of life anyways, so no need for them. On my mother plants, the leaves have turned upwards again and the plants have resumed vertical growth. Sweet. I will probably hit them with Avid again in a few days just to be sure, but it appears this problem is solved.

[Grow Tech]

Thanks Oldpink for the edit on the thread title!

Treatment Update-
The neem treatment i did caused some burning. I dunked the plants and despite mixing my solution regularly, I'm guessing there was a concentrated layer of neem oil on the top of the bucket...which then transfered to the plants as part of the dunk. Nothing fatal but probably cost me a week of veg time. Next time I'll use a sprayer.

The good news is that I have yet to find anything alive now that I've done 1 app of Forbid followed by the neem app.

Another update: today the girls look even healthier. Noticeable vertical growth with even greener upturned leaves. I had been outright depressed when looking in my closet for quite some time, but the dark days are now gone and I'm returning to glory! I can't stop smiling.