[Peacemonger]

I will put up some pics of clones I took and started to flower tomorrow. My problem is exactly like last time. I destroyed and sterilized everything with bleech and then TSP .Started from seed , my plants look nothing like the cupping and heat stress look of the pictures I have seen that are related to "broad mites". My small clones look just like last time I had this , And I'm not sure I have Mosaic but will put up some pictures tomorrow. My plants have the smaller leaf near the top that are curved and one side looks like it was eaten away. And also some lower leaf has totally black dead tip areas. It's not ph or nutes Been at this a long time. I need someone else to look at these so I don't go crazy. Is avid safe before flower..? and if you get it on your hydroton you will use in flower room..? Thanks.

[stasis]

Peace, Can you put up some pictures.?

[UnknownProphet]

Originally Posted by the gnome

ok, I was the one the posted the info concerning the water treatment

This involves lowering the plant into water held at 43 to 49° C (109.4-120.2°F) for 15 minutes

15 minutes seems like a long time but it may not take that long depending on the variables.

There's no variable that will make this not detrimental to your plant, even just a minute. That heat for any living organism is excessive especially if they aren't accustom to high heat or dessert areas. Long story short I next to guarantee this will harm more than help your plant(s). But please try it if you so please, I'm not growing your plant you are. But for me I'd just hit them with Avid and call it a day.

Those who complain about the use of certain pesticides make me wonder do they live in a bubble or something? EVERYTHING in this world we live in is a cause of cancer; from the polluted air, genetically modified foods, contaminated water, ect. Consider this have you ever had McDonald's, or even consumed produce from somewhere other than a local who grows 'organically'?...then you've probably been exposed to worse things than Avid. Wasn't it only a couple years back that McD's was proud to announce 100% real chicken, WTF was it before?!? This is your new 100% real chicken somehow...fucking USDA.



"The twisting pink mass that looks like frozen yogurt infected with ectoplasm might look disgusting. It's mechanically separated chicken, chicken nuggets in their primordial form. And it is perfectly okay to eat.

Because it's crawling with bacteria, it will be washed with ammonia, soaked in it, actually. Then, because it tastes gross, it will be reflavored artificially. Then, because it is weirdly pink, it will be dyed with artificial color."

Sorry for the rant, just always wanted to get that out there. Carry on...

[the gnome]

Originally Posted by UnknownProphet

There's no variable that will make this not detrimental to your plant, even just a minute. [That heat for any living organism is excessive especially if they aren't accustom to high heat or dessert areas. Long story short I next to guarantee this will harm more than help your plant(s). But please try it if you so please, I'm not growing your plant you are. But for me I'd just hit them with Avid and call it a day

Sorry for the rant, just always wanted to get that out there. Carry on...

the dunking and temps is a quote from the univ. of fla agri. site.
https://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/orn/broad_mite.htm
seems like they wouldn't post that if it did harm to plants in.

I'm not advocating only relaying the info.
in my prior posts in this thread I use avid and forbid,
agree with you there.

That heat for any living organism is excessive especially if they aren't accustom to high heat

subjective yes, excessive for "any living organisms"? no
the temps of 109-120F is not excessive for living orgs.
that's pretty much the water temps we all usually take
109F a nice long soaking hot bath in, and hotter.
I just checked mine and its 112.
water temps for activating yeast is a 105° F–115° F (41° C–46° C)

but if i had currently plants infected with BMs and they were small enough to dunk i would definitely
give it a go on a few to see if it worked.

its dunking time for some plants!

[RetroGrow]

This is the best link I have found on Broad/Cyclamen mites. Lots of good pictures too.

https://www.ksre.ksu.edu/library/4h_y2/mf2938.pdf

Everything you ever wanted to know about these bastards, including the heat treatment.

[aligee]

for a few bucks you can be BM free No BS !!! im firm believer in these essential oils!

[Yes4Prop215]

alternating treatments of Abamectin and Spiromesifen have wiped out broad mites in my grow...i cant even see the dead bodies its like they melted away. i also used SNS209 mixed in with both treatments....also make sure to not spray in flower. my plants were dosed in veg in a seperate room

[Garuda]

For the record:
I used a combination of dunking my plants in warm water (40°-50°C) for a few minutes and Amblyseius cucumeris predator mites a week later (or so). The drowning reduced the population significantly, but the eggs seemed more resistive. At first it was just a relief but no cure. On the long term I got rid of them.
I also noticed that some plants didn't have any broad mites on them and others were full, maybe it has something to do with the specific terpenes.

Greetz,
Garuda.

[aligee]

sns209 has 10% rosemary extract.

[Storm Shadow]

SNS209 is a rip off... way overpriced ....

https://www.montereyagresources.com/w...s/Ecotec_1.pdf