NEVER store or place a propane cylinder indoors - Grow Room Safety - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

recirculator · 12-26-2011, 05:00 PM

The above title of this post was found on a site called usepropane.com

I found it after googling "propane tank indoors" because the guys at the propane shop that serviced my burner in the greater montreal area (they say they service 20-25 of these a week), freaked right out when I told them my tank is inside the house.

They insist that I put it outside and run the hose in (they suggested through an open window...not exactly practical). I still have the tank inside for now, but since I learned this I plan to run NG over to my washer dryer area which will be close enough to hook up after this run is done and get rid of these tanks in the house.

Do you guys keep your tanks inside? Ever had a problem? Ever heard of any problems with indoor propane cylinders? I found several different propane safety sites that echo the sentiment above, and nothing to suggest it's in any way reasonable to have a barbecue tank in the house. I'm scared.

Happy Happy

chongsbuddy · 12-26-2011, 05:04 PM

why r u asking us when a professional told you not to?

joe fresh · 12-26-2011, 05:07 PM

well the main issue with having the tanks in the house is a propane leak, like from a faulty tank or cracked hosing....having a gas buildup near hid lights is a guarantee explosion. a big issue is having an older tank or rusty tank, i buy new tanks every year, not retested tanks, brand new tanks

i understand 100% where they are coming from, that being said my tanks are in the house because its really unpractical to have them outside, but it would be safer

12-26-2011, 05:10 PM

Cracked hosing might then be a risk even with the tank outdoors?

Stay safe everyone.

KryptKeepa · 12-26-2011, 05:20 PM

Something I do, and is suggested by the hydro innovations team where i got my water cooled CO2 gen.. is get some soapy water and check over and over for leaks.
Spray every contact surface, at the bottle at the generator.

My CO2 gen wont light if there's a gas leak at the point of the burner..
Just be vigilant about using propane indoors...

recirculator · 12-26-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chongsbuddy

why r u asking us when a professional told you not to?

I am asking for your experiences to see how many people are doing (as I am ) with a propane tank in the house, and forgive me, but since I just found out this is dangerous, I figured perhaps there are more growers out there that like me didn't have a clue how bad this apparently is.

Grow stores that want to sell an 800$ burner typically won't warn the public that the tank must be mounted outside, and since I found out last week that it's a ticking time bomb in my house, I thought it might benefit someone else to learn the same.

So I was wondering if anyone using a propane burner actually runs the hose from outside the way it (apparently) should be done, and also wanted to SHARE this "new" information that my fellow growers might want to know about if they haven't researched the safety issues the way they should.

It would really suck if my house blew up and it would suck even more if burned down my neighbors house with a 4 year old in it.

Happy Happy

Shcrews · 12-26-2011, 05:29 PM

i know several people who run burners and keep their propane indoors. I have never heard of a problem occuring, but obviously a lage tank of combustible fuel should not be stored inside a house. whatever... their decision. I have 6 cases of butane in the trunk of my car so probably should not be casting judgement.

but i use bottled co2... much safer but also more expensive and a bit more cumbersome.

foomar · 12-26-2011, 09:37 PM

Would check house insurance , will not cover unless the gas cylinder is integral with the burner unit , like portable gas fires.

The risk is more of an explosion from an unconnected fire in the property reaching the cylinder , and a real danger for firemen.

Off mains gas here so have a large calorgas tank at the bottom of the garden , steel pipes all the way to the boiler and fires with no flexible pipeing allowed , fuseable thermal cutoff valve where it enters the house.

Dirty Harry · 12-26-2011, 10:23 PM

LP gas is heaver than air. If it leaks, it sinks and flows downhill like water...you just can't see it. If a pocket builds up and there is a spark, BOOM. And it may not be where the tanks where sitting.
You don't want that in your house. Even if you were not growing, but storing BBQ tanks inside, if you have a house fire you will have to tell the fire dept. you have LP inside.
When they know that, they may not want to go inside. If you don't tell them and one gets hurt or killed from an explosion, it's your ass.

Drill a hole through the wall or concrete, run a gas line, and caulk the opening shut. Keep the tank outside, but you still have the risk of a leak. Get an LP detector from an RV dealer and set it on the floor in the lowest point. It may save you if you do have a leak.

supermanlives · 12-27-2011, 04:36 PM

i have always had mine inside. i do have an inline leak detector tho and shut off tank valve manually at lights off period.

12-26-2011, 05:00 PM	#1
recirculator Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 25	NEVER store or place a propane cylinder indoors The above title of this post was found on a site called usepropane.com I found it after googling "propane tank indoors" because the guys at the propane shop that serviced my burner in the greater montreal area (they say they service 20-25 of these a week), freaked right out when I told them my tank is inside the house. They insist that I put it outside and run the hose in (they suggested through an open window...not exactly practical). I still have the tank inside for now, but since I learned this I plan to run NG over to my washer dryer area which will be close enough to hook up after this run is done and get rid of these tanks in the house. Do you guys keep your tanks inside? Ever had a problem? Ever heard of any problems with indoor propane cylinders? I found several different propane safety sites that echo the sentiment above, and nothing to suggest it's in any way reasonable to have a barbecue tank in the house. I'm scared. Happy Happy
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Shcrews DO WHO YOU BE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: (831) / (310) / (209) Posts: 6,953	i know several people who run burners and keep their propane indoors. I have never heard of a problem occuring, but obviously a lage tank of combustible fuel should not be stored inside a house. whatever... their decision. I have 6 cases of butane in the trunk of my car so probably should not be casting judgement. but i use bottled co2... much safer but also more expensive and a bit more cumbersome. __________________ Current grow: Motherlode Gardens 2017
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12-26-2011, 09:37 PM	#8
foomar Luddite Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,262	Would check house insurance , will not cover unless the gas cylinder is integral with the burner unit , like portable gas fires. The risk is more of an explosion from an unconnected fire in the property reaching the cylinder , and a real danger for firemen. Off mains gas here so have a large calorgas tank at the bottom of the garden , steel pipes all the way to the boiler and fires with no flexible pipeing allowed , fuseable thermal cutoff valve where it enters the house. __________________ A fine C99 cross from Head , Geisha girls Mmmmm Blackberry meets C99 in purple and gold Black Geisha Project MBS test run , and a dash of Blackberry
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12-26-2011, 10:23 PM	#9
Dirty Harry Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 148	LP gas is heaver than air. If it leaks, it sinks and flows downhill like water...you just can't see it. If a pocket builds up and there is a spark, BOOM. And it may not be where the tanks where sitting. You don't want that in your house. Even if you were not growing, but storing BBQ tanks inside, if you have a house fire you will have to tell the fire dept. you have LP inside. When they know that, they may not want to go inside. If you don't tell them and one gets hurt or killed from an explosion, it's your ass. Drill a hole through the wall or concrete, run a gas line, and caulk the opening shut. Keep the tank outside, but you still have the risk of a leak. Get an LP detector from an RV dealer and set it on the floor in the lowest point. It may save you if you do have a leak.
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12-26-2011, 05:04 PM	#2
chongsbuddy Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ontario,canada Posts: 1,260	why r u asking us when a professional told you not to?
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12-26-2011, 05:10 PM	#4
raypack Guest Posts: n/a	Cracked hosing might then be a risk even with the tank outdoors? Stay safe everyone.
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12-26-2011, 05:20 PM	#5
KryptKeepa Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 226	Something I do, and is suggested by the hydro innovations team where i got my water cooled CO2 gen.. is get some soapy water and check over and over for leaks. Spray every contact surface, at the bottle at the generator. My CO2 gen wont light if there's a gas leak at the point of the burner.. Just be vigilant about using propane indoors...
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12-27-2011, 04:36 PM	#10
supermanlives Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: gilligans island Posts: 13,142	i have always had mine inside. i do have an inline leak detector tho and shut off tank valve manually at lights off period.
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