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slowpokeamnesia · 11-19-2015, 08:18 PM

Can I use this thread to ask if you folks have any opinions on the mix I am planning?

1/3 Alpaca Manure + someEWC (Local cold compost)
1/3 Peat Moss
1/3 Coco Coir (aeration?)

+ Coots mix from BAS

cover crop of clover

top dress of malted barley powder

GET MO · 11-19-2015, 08:37 PM

welcome to the forum slowpokeamnesia!
Im not an expert in mixes but im sure someone will help you.

What I would say to consider tho is the ph with that mix, I dont know what alpaca manure and ewc do to ph, but you may want to add some dolimite or some oyster shells to bring ph up if the manure lowers it. Perlite is also a plus, but depends on your enviroment too, what are the temps like? how often do you want to water? Is this for indoor or outdoor? All factors that play a part in what type of mix you want...

GET MO · 11-19-2015, 08:44 PM

I enjoyed playing with soil mixes, but this year I dont have too much time, so I will be going back to my standard mix...

truckload of dirt from off the mountain where they clear cutted and pushed all the brush to piles and it composted.
few bags of ewc
few bags of steer manure
few bags of chicken manure
few bags of some other manure i find at nursery
some bat guano pellets
few bags of happy frog soil amendment
few bags of vermifarm soil amendment
few wheelbarrows full of compost
big bag of perlite
bag of age old grow
few cups of molasses

rota-till it all up and walah

no precise amounts of anything, just add it so it feels right.
feed compost teas as needed in flower.

slowpokeamnesia · 11-19-2015, 08:55 PM

More information:

I am doing an indoor in 30 gallons, hoping to feed minimally with diluted stinging nettle fpe and other microbial/nutritious teas. Going to control the temps to be 18-32 C range with LEDs and from the heating of my dwelling. Hoping to use coco coir for aeration because I already have it. I can water everyday if needed.

This is what is in the mix:
1. Brix Blend Basalt - Our Favorite Rock Dust for trace minerals. Highly paramagnetic.

2. Gypsum Dust - Calcium and Sulfur

3. Oyster Shell Flour - Calcium Carbonate - Adds available calcium and limes the Peat moss.

4. Crustacean Meal - Crab and Shrimp

5. Kelp Meal - Acadian Seaplants Brand

6. Neem Cake

GET MO · 11-19-2015, 09:02 PM

oh ok didnt see the coots mix, sounds good to me!

slowpokeamnesia · 11-19-2015, 09:53 PM

Cool! I was expecting some hate for the manure. I was assured by the owner that it was treated well and a fed healthy diet.

I also have 2.5 gal biochar (just under 10% container volume) but I think I have to charge it first. Any recommendations on how to proceed for that?

bucketswithsoil · 11-19-2015, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GET MO

oh ok didnt see the coots mix, sounds good to me!

coots does know his dirt and mixes....

Mikell · 11-19-2015, 11:27 PM

^I don't even read your posts anymore without those asstastic avatars.

Coir is good but not an aeration substitute in peat mixes. Peat can be cut with coir 3:1. Too much will mess with the rough mix ratios your nutrient pack is made for. Grab a bag of perlite, rice hulls or what have you as a proper aeration amendment.

Google or site search char charging, can't recall anything offhand. 10% is about double to maximum you'd want to add. The organic sub forum has a few threads on the subject.

slowpokeamnesia · 11-20-2015, 01:21 PM

I actually double checked and the biochar was innoculated with EM. Should I lower my amount to 1 gallon biochar in 30 gallon container?

rice hulls for brewing is only 1-2$ per pound can I use this as aeration? I will also keeping an eye out on craigslist for it along with pumice lavarock or perlite

Mikell · 11-20-2015, 03:40 PM

EM re: just the microbial soup or something you fermented with it? The goal with charging is to load up on N so as to not strip it from the soil. 1 gallon is good.

11-19-2015, 08:37 PM	#142
GET MO Registered Med User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: with shovel, ya dig? Posts: 7,523	welcome to the forum slowpokeamnesia! Im not an expert in mixes but im sure someone will help you. What I would say to consider tho is the ph with that mix, I dont know what alpaca manure and ewc do to ph, but you may want to add some dolimite or some oyster shells to bring ph up if the manure lowers it. Perlite is also a plus, but depends on your enviroment too, what are the temps like? how often do you want to water? Is this for indoor or outdoor? All factors that play a part in what type of mix you want... __________________ DEATHS FROM CIGARETTES:.......300,000 DEATHS FROM ALCOHOL:.............90,000 DEATHS FROM CANNABIS .............................. .............................. .......someone might die........someday ........................... -CA Med Patient in compliance with SB 420/Prop 215- IG Drohammad -Get Mo's Grow Log- -Relentless Genetics Grow- -Ace genetics grow- BloomShotz!! Dried Bud Shots... Vert Baby!!!
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11-19-2015, 08:44 PM	#143
GET MO Registered Med User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: with shovel, ya dig? Posts: 7,523	I enjoyed playing with soil mixes, but this year I dont have too much time, so I will be going back to my standard mix... truckload of dirt from off the mountain where they clear cutted and pushed all the brush to piles and it composted. few bags of ewc few bags of steer manure few bags of chicken manure few bags of some other manure i find at nursery some bat guano pellets few bags of happy frog soil amendment few bags of vermifarm soil amendment few wheelbarrows full of compost big bag of perlite bag of age old grow few cups of molasses rota-till it all up and walah no precise amounts of anything, just add it so it feels right. feed compost teas as needed in flower. __________________ DEATHS FROM CIGARETTES:.......300,000 DEATHS FROM ALCOHOL:.............90,000 DEATHS FROM CANNABIS .............................. .............................. .......someone might die........someday ........................... -CA Med Patient in compliance with SB 420/Prop 215- IG Drohammad -Get Mo's Grow Log- -Relentless Genetics Grow- -Ace genetics grow- BloomShotz!! Dried Bud Shots... Vert Baby!!!
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11-19-2015, 09:02 PM	#145
GET MO Registered Med User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: with shovel, ya dig? Posts: 7,523	oh ok didnt see the coots mix, sounds good to me! __________________ DEATHS FROM CIGARETTES:.......300,000 DEATHS FROM ALCOHOL:.............90,000 DEATHS FROM CANNABIS .............................. .............................. .......someone might die........someday ........................... -CA Med Patient in compliance with SB 420/Prop 215- IG Drohammad -Get Mo's Grow Log- -Relentless Genetics Grow- -Ace genetics grow- BloomShotz!! Dried Bud Shots... Vert Baby!!!
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11-19-2015, 08:18 PM	#141
slowpokeamnesia Newbie Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 12	Can I use this thread to ask if you folks have any opinions on the mix I am planning? 1/3 Alpaca Manure + someEWC (Local cold compost) 1/3 Peat Moss 1/3 Coco Coir (aeration?) + Coots mix from BAS cover crop of clover top dress of malted barley powder
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11-19-2015, 08:55 PM	#144
slowpokeamnesia Newbie Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 12	More information: I am doing an indoor in 30 gallons, hoping to feed minimally with diluted stinging nettle fpe and other microbial/nutritious teas. Going to control the temps to be 18-32 C range with LEDs and from the heating of my dwelling. Hoping to use coco coir for aeration because I already have it. I can water everyday if needed. This is what is in the mix: 1. Brix Blend Basalt - Our Favorite Rock Dust for trace minerals. Highly paramagnetic. 2. Gypsum Dust - Calcium and Sulfur 3. Oyster Shell Flour - Calcium Carbonate - Adds available calcium and limes the Peat moss. 4. Crustacean Meal - Crab and Shrimp 5. Kelp Meal - Acadian Seaplants Brand 6. Neem Cake
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11-19-2015, 09:53 PM	#146
slowpokeamnesia Newbie Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 12	Cool! I was expecting some hate for the manure. I was assured by the owner that it was treated well and a fed healthy diet. I also have 2.5 gal biochar (just under 10% container volume) but I think I have to charge it first. Any recommendations on how to proceed for that?
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11-19-2015, 11:27 PM	#148
Mikell Dipshit Know-Nothing Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Van Isle, BC Posts: 4,971	^I don't even read your posts anymore without those asstastic avatars. Coir is good but not an aeration substitute in peat mixes. Peat can be cut with coir 3:1. Too much will mess with the rough mix ratios your nutrient pack is made for. Grab a bag of perlite, rice hulls or what have you as a proper aeration amendment. Google or site search char charging, can't recall anything offhand. 10% is about double to maximum you'd want to add. The organic sub forum has a few threads on the subject.
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11-20-2015, 01:21 PM	#149
slowpokeamnesia Newbie Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 12	I actually double checked and the biochar was innoculated with EM. Should I lower my amount to 1 gallon biochar in 30 gallon container? rice hulls for brewing is only 1-2$ per pound can I use this as aeration? I will also keeping an eye out on craigslist for it along with pumice lavarock or perlite
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11-20-2015, 03:40 PM	#150
Mikell Dipshit Know-Nothing Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Van Isle, BC Posts: 4,971	EM re: just the microbial soup or something you fermented with it? The goal with charging is to load up on N so as to not strip it from the soil. 1 gallon is good.
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