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Old 02-21-2006, 05:34 AM #1
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Containing Odor

what is the best material to contain those intense smells?

I mean besides using carbon filters and ozone generators, what about

plastics like poly-films, metal cabnets, styrafoam(sp?), glass, plexi-glass(sp?)

what works best to help keep most of the smell inside a grow location?
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Old 02-21-2006, 05:42 AM #2
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I'm not sure why you say "besides carbon filters", because that's really all you need.

However, most people don't understand that negative pressure is the key to successfully using carbon.

Perhaps you can clarify why not carbon and why a structural containment system.
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Old 02-21-2006, 06:19 AM #3
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vaportek 4000 deffinitly beat the carbon scrubber in my grow area for dealing with smells. PeAcE
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Old 02-21-2006, 06:21 AM #4
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If you ask most people about containing smell they will say, use a carbon filter, and toss in an ozone genorator for good messure.

So if you would like to go one step up to try to further improve the smell containment.

I'm looking to find something to use a "back-up" or a "back-up for back-up". Like if you take a plastic baggie filled with the strongest smelling herb, you can still smell the herb.

does that help? I'm looking for ways to improve odor reduction while using other methods?
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I see.

I went the way of the ozone gen myself at first, not knowing any better and found it to be for all practical purposes, useless. Of course at the time I was growing 80 plants. That's probably a bit much for ozone, not to mention the health risks associated with its use.

I've since progressed to growing a lot more than 80 plants at a time and still use carbon almost exclusively. However, a small ozone gen rigged into the venting after the scrubber has helped when the carbon was getting tired and needed to be replaced or when there was a leak in the venting that I could not locate in time.

Remember though that ozone has a distinct odour that most cops find to be indicative of a grow as it is very rarely used for anything else in the situations they are likely to encounter it. (ie, your house).

Other than that, mothballs can do an interesting job of stinking up a place that might be experiencing leaks or a poorly functioning scrubber. As for any of the ionizers and that kind of thing, that might work for a closet or something, but not any kind of serious op.
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Old 02-21-2006, 01:39 PM #6
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if you want peace of mind as far as the smell goes you will need a very good exhaust system hooked to a scrubber. as Lothar said the secret is the negative pressure. your intake needs to be weaker then your exhaust after the filter is hooked up.then as long as its runing no smell can escape unless through the filter, which if the right size will do a perfect job. just don't keep it longer then 1 year. better switch to a new filter every 3 or 4 times.

if your ventilation and scrubber is too weak then you can add a bathroom smelly thing inside the vent hose after the filter.

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Old 02-22-2006, 01:30 AM #7
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Okay I guess that I still havent been clear enough,

I know how to set up a system with a carbon filter,

what I'm now driving for is something(info) that I can use to build a grow(or re-inforce) chamber, or line it with that will prevent odors from leeching out of the "box, chamber, closet".

I know if I could make a chamber/box that had a small space to create a vacume(no air at all like in outerspace), since smells cant travel through a vacume(as far as I know)

so what is the worst substance to let odors pass through it, what works better than the worst substance, ect..... and then what is the substance that is the best at keeping odors from passing through it (not including carbon that is used in filters, and ozone)
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Old 02-22-2006, 01:32 AM #8
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I should also state that I'm not growing anything at the moment and will not be for a while.
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Old 02-22-2006, 05:56 PM #9
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if your not growing why don't you listen?

makeing your structure smell proof is a huge undertakeing compared to hanging up an over capacity ventilation with a overcapacity scrubber. the secret is not to let any air escape the grow area unless its through your scrubber.you just make sure that you always have negative pressure in the grow space (ie a vacume). this saves you the hassle of insulating every wall, corner and noock and crany and still haveing smell escape because you don't have negative pressure in your grow.

however if you want to do both, then the best way is to have an air chamber between the grow and the outside walls. use silicon on any cracks. a grow box contained in another box will insure an extra amount of smell saftey.

but again with corect ventilation you don't need to worry about the smell. just goto keep the scrubbers replaced every year. they have great ventilation controlers that will keep the ventilation runing 24/7 but always at the speed needed to keep the temps good. as long as it never turns completly off the smell will not escape.

but basicly you phisical insulation of the grow can be improved with all sorts of material. rock wool, cococoir, foam rubber and sealing every single crack.
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Old 02-24-2006, 06:27 AM #10
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I'm just trying to thing out side of the box, and come up with other ways of helping with peace of mind.
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