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Old 08-12-2014, 04:59 AM #111
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Hit them two more times with the forbid a week apart...

Dunk them upside down in a plastic bucket to assure full coverage of all stems and leaves if you can
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with forbid its not necessary to do a dunk like that. its sufficient to lightly spray the upper leaf surfaces. the tops of leaves will be fine because its a translaminar not a true systemic. contact coverage not necessary. you can do this to quite a large plant with a very small ammount of mix. more is not more effective its just more toxic to you the ground and area around and wildlife. there wont be less mites on your plants from making it so saturated it s a dripping toxic mess. the art of using these and the responsibilty is important. finesse and light but effective usage so as to not stray from the info regarding safety that is written from a standpoint of assumed dosage per area. its designed to work as its written on the directions. i would follow the dipping instructions for cuttings only. inthe case of cuts i think dipping in a small cup is the safer more conservative method. id rather use a dixie cup full not dispersed in the air as a fine breathable mist on new genetics and know that im not creating a situation that requires a backpack sprayer full.

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xxxstr8edgexxx cool...

Mine are 10 feet tall so no dipping.
I used Forbid at low dose, 3 mil per 5 gallons, 10 gallons total 6 or what looked like perhaps 8mil total.

xxxstr8edgexxx im seing new damage and the poision effect, leaf curling and taco.
However I own a 300X vetrneran microscope and find nothing but dead mites.

Are they hatching and dying over and over?

Today makes 7 days from my spray of avid.
Tonight I sprayed Caps Beneficials to combat the poisons.
Tomorrow I hope to spray Azomax and then a few days later Forbid at the low dose.

Just OMG every plant was infested! I was so lucky to kill them off, I can assume they will be back, but by then Forbid and then harvest.

Advice on my plan xxxstr8edgexxx?

PS: Just preflowered today, but still makes enough time for the forbid to burn off and get lab tested, yadda yadda.
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asprin 350 mg per gallon or 1 tablet per gallon. creates a systemic immune response. google it or search retrogrows posts about. it. helps deal with the toxins.
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if youre gonna use avid, use it right.
it s 3 times within 9 days. Especially if you are not using an ovicide (hexagon)
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Abamectin (avid) @ 2ml/gallon
Forbid @ 1ml/gallon
Combined in spray bottle, used on tops/bottoms of all leaves, stem sprayed.

Day 1, again 4 days later, again 4 days later.

Complete and utter control. Now spraying once a month preventative on mothers/veg. No issues in 3+ cycles.

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asprin 350 mg per gallon or 1 tablet per gallon. creates a systemic immune response. google it or search retrogrows posts about. it. helps deal with the toxins.
Double up on the aspirin in this case.
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Abamectin (avid) @ 2ml/gallon
Forbid @ 1ml/gallon
Combined in spray bottle, used on tops/bottoms of all leaves, stem sprayed.

Day 1, again 4 days later, again 4 days later.

Complete and utter control. Now spraying once a month preventative on mothers/veg. No issues in 3+ cycles.

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If you have Avid and Forbid, rotate every 3 days. Forbid is translaminar. Will penetrate leaves. Avid not translaminar. Must have full coverage. Keep the aspirin going to mitigate the toxins.
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not necessary to do a dunk like that. its sufficient to lightly spray the upper leaf surfaces. the tops of leaves will be fine because its a translaminar not a true systemic. contact coverage not necessary. you can do this to quite a large plant with a very small ammount of mix. more is not more effective its just more toxic to you the ground and area around and wildlife. there wont be less mites on your plants from making it so saturated it s a dripping toxic mess. the art of using these and the responsibilty is important. finesse and light but effective usage so as to not stray from the info regarding safety that is written from a standpoint of assumed dosage per area. its designed to work as its written on the directions. i would follow the dipping instructions for cuttings only. inthe case of cuts i think dipping in a small cup is the safer more conservative method. id rather use a dixie cup full on new genetics and know that im not creating a situation that requires a backpack sprayer full.
The big thing is having a really good sprayer with wand and tiny droplets. Those cheap pump sprayers from HD suck, and waste a lot of spray, and it gets all over you. The toxicity of this shit is off the charts. My buddy has just discovered these, and has been texting me all night. I sent him here, hence my posts.
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