[Weezard]

From the symptoms, it sounds like those syringes are high THC, low CBD.

You could add some high CBD oil to temper the effects of the THC.
The added CBD should stop the shaking and return her appetite.

But, if it were me, I'd cut the syringe oil dosage down until the shaking stops first.
Once Sunshine has had a full course of treatment, I'd go to maintenance dosage.
That will be less than a tenth of what she gets now.
Then mix in a maintenance dose of the high CBD oil as well.

If the syringe oil is free of contaminants, (solvents, pesticides, etc), she should have built quite a tolerance by now.
For a dog of that size, a rice grain's worth should not be the saturation point.
So, I'm thinking that her reaction might not be to the THC.
Is there some way you could have a sample tested?
What does it smell like?
Have you taste tested it yourself?

And no worry. The THC would not harm her if she drank a pint of it.

But, things like Azamax residue will cause tremors in humans.
And un-purged solvents can cause liver and nerve damage depending on which solvent was used of course.
So, just for your peace of mind, I highly recommend that you send a sample to a testing lab.

Aloha,
Weezard.

Disclaimer:
I'm not a doctor.
I am not qualified to give medical advice.
Continue to do your own research.

But I am fully qualified to give a "rat's ass" in the form of "what I would do in dem shoe".

[OGEvilgenius]

It would be very good to know the source of the oil. Can you absolutely verify there is significant CBD? A grain of rice for something very potent is actually not insignificant - especially for a 40lb dog. I'd back off on the dose for the time being but continue to dose. Rubbing topically has been shown anecdotally to have effect and you should do that as much as is reasonable for your budget and the dogs reaction (lick lick time?).

[Sunshinemom]

First of all:
THANK YOU Weeezard and OGEvilgenius for your prompt responses!

The can.oil that I've been giving Sunshine comes from a completely legit source that supplies it to seriously ill human patients under the supervision of the Ministry of Health.
It is the best I could get in the whole country; pharmacy quality. Lots of money and lots of connections were involved...
This is my baby we're talking about, I would never feed her something even remotely shady.
I called the supplier - he said that the oil contains:
thc - about 56%, cbd - about 44%
It smells and tastes exactly as it should

He agrees that the shaking could come from thc overdose...
I'll try to cut the dose even more...

QUESTIONS:
How much oil should I give her in general?
I understand that a grown human should consume about 60 grams of it during the entire treatment...
Does it mean that Sunshine should consume about 20 grams during 2-3 months?

Should try it by myself?
If so, how much should I consume?
What should I expect in order to understand the oil's quality?
How do I know whether it contains something sinister, besides testing?
Can I feel it by myself?

OGEvilgenius - do you think I should go back to rubbing her scar topically?
She never licks it... And the scar had almost disappeared - there is just fur there...

[OttawaGreen]

Wow that is cool. I miss my dog...

[Weezard]

"QUESTIONS:
How much oil should I give her in general?
I understand that a grown human should consume about 60 grams of it during the entire treatment...
Does it mean that Sunshine should consume about 20 grams during 2-3 months?

Should try it by myself?
If so, how much should I consume?
What should I expect in order to understand the oil's quality?
How do I know whether it contains something sinister, besides testing?
Can I feel it by myself?"

How much total? Hard to say.
There are several variables at play.
Individual response covers a wide range here.
I have ingested >120g. to date without clear remission.
Progress has slowed considerably but has not ceased.
Others claim complete remission with <60g.

To have some idea of what your dog is feeling here, yes, you should be her crash test dummy.
Take the same amount that she just tolerates.
If you go to "panicland" from that, cut her dosage in half, yah?
Scratch that! You would probably not enjoy panicland.

Start with about a third of what you give Sunshine
If you feel nothing after 2 hours, wait a day, then try half as much as she's been getting.

When I was making oil for a patient, I personally tasted each batch because I have no access to a lab.
Bio-assay isn't science, but it beats nothing at all.
You are looking for off tastes, and strength and character of the "side effects".
With naptha, or iso extractions, I wait for a belch.
If there's any residual solvent it's an unmistakeable taste/smell.

Can't advise on pesticides.
Other than "Don't use them ", yah?

Aloha,
Wee

[Sunshinemom]

I lowered the dose (the drop is smaller now) - Sunshine looks great, obviously.

So, I'm back to square one - a small dose is fine, but if I'll try to increase it again - she'll probably shake like a leaf :(
The whole ordeal started when I tried to gradually increase the daily dosage...

Weezard: I'll gladly be her crash test dummy!!!
Thank you for the idea!

I didn't notice any weird belches with her
But I don't think a drop a size of a grain will affect me maybe a blueberry

120 g is a lot, but then again, you weigh more than Sunshine
People claim many things, I think its individual...
My biggest problem is that there is so little research on cannabis treatment of canine cancer. My vet is aware of the whole process, yet he is extremely skeptical.
This forum is one of the rare sources of information on this subject...

The idea of lab testing keeps popping in my mind...

[Focus35]

I'm new here and have a question. I have some RSO obtained from a MMJ dispensery that I've been using to prevent a reoccurrence of ovarian cancer in myself. I have a 45 lb. border collie who has a mast cell growth on her nose. I'd like to try giving her some of my RSO. I find any amount greater than a rice grain sized dab of this particular oil gets me (I weigh 120 lbs.) really stoned so she is going to need a lot less. Is there some way to thin down the RSO to make it diluted so it would be easier to accurately dose her? I tried adding both Vegetable Glycerin and Everclear on separate occasions and neither will mix in with it no matter how much I stir or add heat. The RSO just stays as a tarry mass floating in the added substance. Does anyone have any ideas that might help?

[trinity21]

Focus35 you can use pure coconut oil. There is a facebook group for canine cancer using canbabis. Loads of information there.

[Focus35]

Thanks trinity21. The coconut oil worked.

[VicsOlLady]

Originally Posted by Guest 26753

Using Cannabis Oil (THC) to treat cancer (Mast Cell Tumor) in a 7 year old Boxer. The tumor is nearly completely gone after 30 days of topical application. Owners report that as of the last few days they have started to see positive changes in his demeanor and alertness. He's started eating normal amounts of food again over the past couple days and has not vomited since Dec 3rd. Oral doses started on Nov 28th, topical application began on Nov 10th.

Pics are courtesy of my good friend Dr Bob Melamede.

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Hi, I want to say Congrats on what looks like the recovery of Mast Cell Tumor Cancer in your Boxer. I am fighting the same current battle with my 11 year old Chow Mix named Brutus. He was diagnosed on October 10, 2014, and he is still fighting. I would like to thank you for sharing your experience with your Boxer and treatment. I will be beginning the same regimen this evening. I also wanted you to know that the pictures that you posted in the article are not able to be viewed. Due to my dog current condition although, I will be beginning the topical treatment as well as adding it into his food. I was just wondering how much of a dosage did you give to him, and when was he diagnosed? Thanks again for sharing and giving me hope in this painful battle.