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Old 07-18-2014, 05:46 AM #121
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Yes it is osteosarcoma..
We will be getting some tomorrow I believe, I'm waiting on my mother and sister to give their input on if we should try and save his arm, or just get it removed.

I know three legged dogs can live happy and normal lives.
I'll try and keep everyone updated if they are interested, I think it is important that people share the results of using oils to treat cancer in dogs, because almost half of dogs do get it. The more people know of it's success and how it can help the more people will do it.

I'm proud that this is route we are taking instead of kemo therapy, which is horrible for any creature.
Thank you Weezard.
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:04 AM #122
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Well, if I recall when I was browsing on another forum I saw you at Weezard.

Someone asked, I don't know if you remember because it was on page one. But they asked how much would they give their Five pound pomeranian. Which the replyer said about 8-10mgs.

My dog is about 70 pounds, if anyone could give some incite it would be nice. I'm not quite sure how to figure it.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:21 AM #123
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A 70 pound dog can handle about half what a 140 pound person can.
But exact dosage will vary from one dog to another, just like people.
So the dog, is a variable, the potency and the concentration of the oil is a variable.
Even the dog's diet will affect tolerance.

So, what we have to do to find the right dosage for your dog, is sneak up on it.

Start with a single drop.

Take him out, play with him, and observe his behavior.
No one knows your dog better than you.
Up the dosage until you can see that he is getting, well, stoned.

Hold that dosage for a couple days then increase it by 10% or so.
When he takes that in stride, up it again.
You should be able to get >1/2gram per day into him after a few weeks of ramping up.
Best to give it in 3 divided doses per day.
The aim, is to get as much oil as he can tolerate into him and keep the cannabinoid level in his bloodstream as high as you can get it until the tumor shrinks.

It's a gamble, and not an inexpensive one.
The good news is, it can, and does work.
And it will do him no harm.
Now I'm off to hug my pups and smoke a bowl to their good health.

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Old 07-18-2014, 07:14 PM #124
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My dog had osteogenic sarcoma. We had her leg completely ressected as the damage was very severe (and it was really fast growing and aggressive). I lived in a remote area and to get it fixed would have been way beyond my means and might have been counterproductive as well.

There are a lot of lines of dogs that carry the genes for osteogenic sarcoma unfortunately. Try to encourage better breeding practices to try to help fix this which is mostly from inbreeding.

I treated it with some incredibly good purple kush after it spread to her lungs. She's still with us 6 years later and no longer being treated. I dosed her for a few months. I probably over did it at first but she didn't seem to mind that much and happily lapped up the butter I made for her after.

I'd definitely get something to help the dog move after the operation. My only regret is that I did not because she moved pretty well, but now as she is getting older she is quite arthritic. I am looking into it now and will be growing out some high cbd to help with her aches and pains. She lost a front leg and was a large breed dog.
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Black seed (nigella sativa) oil is worth looking for into.
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Hi everyone. Our German Shepherd lost his battle with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma yesterday. We were told he had 4 months at best back in November. He made it 10 months and was happy and comfortable until the last 2 days. The cannabis oil kept him going strong, eating and happy throughout the whole ordeal. When diagnosed, the options we were given were a low dose chemo tablet daily or radiation therapy. We went with cannabis oil and never looked back. I would recommend cannabis oil to anyone who's considering it for a sick animal or person.
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Unhappy Treating my dog with can.oil, looking for some input

Hello everybody,

I'll try to be as brief as possible

HISTORY:
My dog Sunshine is 11.5 years old. A few months ago she was diagnosed with papillary cystadenocarcinoma,

It is important to note that I didn't spay Sunshine until very late. She had several false pregnancies and even lactated (it was very weird :()
At a certain point she had an inflammation of the uterus and we sterilized her.
Of course I should've done it before ... I just don't like cutting up my dog...

The hormones have done some damage and a few years later she developed a big lump on her right udder. She had a surgery, it was taken out, and the biopsy showed that it was not malignant . We were very happy. Unfortunately, soon, a second lump appeared, and it grew very fast. After Sunshine started obsessively licking it, I was sure that it is cancer, and unfortunately I was right...

The surgery resulted in a 10 by 15 cm tumor (typical human ovarian cancer).
Below is are the results:
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Sample submitted:
Histology (601). Skin section measuring 7 x 5 cm 2 cm from the margin there is a nipple measuring 0.6 cm. On section in the subcutaneous tissue there is a cystic mass containing abundant fluid, the tissue is lobular, white and gray measuring 6 cm in total. The cystic area is underneath the nipple with margins that Creech the nipple.

History:
Mammary mass from the right aspect

Description:
Several sections from the mammary mass were examined. Within the nipple there is dilation of the duct with formation of intraductal papillary projections and there is formation of several follicular cysts. Beneath the nipple there are numerous dilated ducts, all containing many papillary projections lined by cuboidal to columnar epithelial cells. There is no clear circumscription and the edge of the tumor is the edge of the surgical margin.

Diagnosis:
Papillary cystadenocarcinoma

Comments:
The concern in this case is the multicentricity of the tumor, present in many dilated ducts. Completeness of excision cannot be confirmed, and it seems at least narrow, as the border of the tumor is the border of at least one of the surgical margins. Multicentricity generally suggests that similar microscopic foci are present in remaining glandular tissue and new similar masses will form again. Periodical monitoring of the area and early excision in case of new tumor presentation is the treatment of choice.
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So, the tumor was out, but some of it is still in.
We went to do a CT - to check whether there is more metastatic activity in the lungs or the lymph nodes. THERE ARE NONE!!! Thank God!

However, the oncologist was very clear: we should do another surgery and cut everything else out - massive mastectomy of the right side. Then - chemotherapy. And maybe she will live for 2 more years...
The oncologist said that there is a 90% chance of the cancer coming back anyway, whether we do something or not.

It is important to note that Sunshine is a healthy and happy dog, she always has a VERY good appetite. She jumps and plays, and everything else that is a complete opposite of a sick dog. The surgeries did not affect her She had a fight with the family cat the next day, with the stitches and bandages
In addition, the breed supposedly lives until 18-22 years. Strong dogs

So, going back to the "optimistic" verdict and making a long story short...
I decided to treat Sunshine with cannabis oil, because I think that chemo will make her suffer, and probably won't help that much anyway...

I've done A LOT of homework and got 20 syringes with high cbd can.oil (I do not know the exact quantities of cbd and thc in the oil). I also got some can. drops high with thc.
In addition, I went to a canine nutritionist that developed a menu for an old dog with cancer (I'll gladly share if anyone is interested).
The dog weights 44 pounds. (20 kg)

Two weeks after the tumor was out I started rubbing the oil on the stitched scar (that was huge). I also started to give her thc drops -
20 minutes before feeding - 1 drop - 3 times a day.
Later on it was 2 drops - 3 times a day. And then 3 drops - 3 times a day.
She was high as a kite... it was both funny and sad.
She threw up once and was all wiggly :(
I stopped giving her the drops and stopped rubbing the oil on the scar after about 3 weeks.

CURRENT TREATMENT:
Now, and for the last month or so, I've been giving her the cannabis oil from the syringes. A drop the size of less than a grain of rice - 2-3 times in 24 hours, 20 minutes before feeding.
I tried to increase the size of the drop a bit - she got completely stoned - it was scary :(

QUESTIONS:
The effect of the oil causes Sunshine to shake a lot and too much. She never does that, unless I give her the oil. And she looks very miserable in the process. Am I giving her too much?
I was supposed to increase the dosage - but I cannot -whenever I try - the result is a lot of shaking and visible loss of appetite. (She NEVER loses her appetite, and now I have to beg her to eat something!)

I tried to stop the oil for 1 day - just to see if that's the oil - she was completely back to normal, jumping and playing and everything else.

Will her body get used to this? Am I damaging her?

Thank you in advance

Sunshine's mommy
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