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Old 11-28-2011, 05:59 PM #1
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Salut,

Vreau sa asamblez un dulap pentru scopuri pure si virgine, desigur! Am incercat intr-o carcasa de PC si a iesit...
...baiat, asa ca vreau sa construiesc dulapul din pozele atasate.

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E din tego, etansat pe la colturi, filtre 5cm carbon activ, ventilatoare 550 m³/h in si out (cele in sunt optional/experimentale), o sticla intre lumina si restul lumii, un umidificator(sau co2), cam asta. Nu este nimic construit, insa pana de craciun vreau sa fie viu. Ce lumina sa folosesc? Adica o sa fie prea cald pentru un hps de 150/250 astfel incat sa investesc in leduri?

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Old 11-28-2011, 06:50 PM #2
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iti trebuie doar un filtru, la iesire.
iar daca intre hps si plante pui un geam termo-rezistent e si mai bine. daca o dai pe leduri... treaba ta... cauta si vei gasi.

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Old 11-28-2011, 07:58 PM #3
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Eu as opta pt leduri, eventual suplimentat la nevoie cu CFL sau tuburi T5 iar ca metoda de crestere SCROG.
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:08 PM #4
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as spune neoane si atunci renunti la sticla. oricum nu ai ce face prea mult in 30 cm inaltime.
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:21 PM #5
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Neoane T5 cu reflector in spate ? Asta ia cam 4-5 cm din inaltime pe putin. Daca mergi pe T8 e si mai mare spatiul ocupat.

Daca mergi pe leduri poti monta radiatorul chiar in tavan, decupand dulapul iar caldura se degaja direct afara.

Neoanele sunt ieftine dar tin relativ putin. Ledurile sunt considerabil mai scumpe, necesita ceva cunostinte de electronica, dar tin o vesnicie.
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Foarte profi schita!

34 cm spatiu intre suprafata solului si bec e ARHISUFICIENT pentru un micro-grow SOG sau SCROG. Peste 30 cm nici n-o sa ai eficienta de penetrare a luminii.

Ideal ar fi LED, daca te tine buzunarul, daca nu, HPS 150.

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Old 11-29-2011, 02:31 PM #7
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Poti incerca si cu Neoane de tip Pl-l. Sunt niste rezultate bune aici pe forum cu ele
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cum a ramas?
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Scuze ca ma bag in thread ul altcuiva , dar nu am vrut sa deschid unul nou , as avea si eu niste nedumeriri in legatura cu construirea unui spatiu de genul asta . Am sa formulez totul sub forma unei probleme de scoala :

Se da un dulap din PAL cu urmatoarele dimensiuni : 100 cm x 45 cm x 165 cm , ultima fiind inaltimea . Lumina : 2 x 125 W cfl + 2 x 45 W cfl , total 340 watti . Inventarul mai contine 1 filtru carbon 100 mm (160 m3/h) si un extractor pt baie tot de 100 mm.

Intrebari :

a) E la fel de eficient sa pun filtru de carbon la capatul iesirii de aer , avand in vedere ca partea prin care scoate aerul este acoperita cu grilaj (ca la toate extractoarele de baie) ?

b) In cazul achizitiei unui nou extractor tot de 100 mm , cu o capacitate de 105 m3/h ,dar fara grilaj si adaugand si un cooltube (cu bec de 250W HPS) si punand si filtrul de carbon (100m , 160m3/h), va face fata extractorul ? (in acelasi spatiu 100 cm x 45 cm x 165 cm)

am atasat si 2 poze , prima pt intrebarea a) , a doua pt b)
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Scuze ca ma bag in thread ul altcuiva , dar nu am vrut sa deschid unul nou , as avea si eu niste nedumeriri in legatura cu construirea unui spatiu de genul asta . Am sa formulez totul sub forma unei probleme de scoala :

Se da un dulap din PAL cu urmatoarele dimensiuni : 100 cm x 45 cm x 165 cm , ultima fiind inaltimea . Lumina : 2 x 125 W cfl + 2 x 45 W cfl , total 340 watti . Inventarul mai contine 1 filtru carbon 100 mm (160 m3/h) si un extractor pt baie tot de 100 mm.

Intrebari :

a) E la fel de eficient sa pun filtru de carbon la capatul iesirii de aer , avand in vedere ca partea prin care scoate aerul este acoperita cu grilaj (ca la toate extractoarele de baie) ?

b) In cazul achizitiei unui nou extractor tot de 100 mm , cu o capacitate de 105 m3/h ,dar fara grilaj si adaugand si un cooltube (cu bec de 250W HPS) si punand si filtrul de carbon (100m , 160m3/h), va face fata extractorul ? (in acelasi spatiu 100 cm x 45 cm x 165 cm)

am atasat si 2 poze , prima pt intrebarea a) , a doua pt b)

a) E mai eficient sa traga decat sa impinga.

b) Depinde si ce fel de extractor e. Axial, centrifugal sau mixt? Daca e axial atunci in nici un caz nu ajung 105 metri cubi pe ora(cat vine? cam 60siceva de cfm cred). Daca e mixt, nici atunci nu cred ca ajung, daca e centrifugal ... poate poate dar tot nu cred ca ar face fata la temperaturi, acum depinde si ce temperaturi sunt unde o sa tii dulapul.

Te-ai gandit sa faci ventilatia pe doua canale? Un canal special pentru cooltube si inca unul pentru ventilatie in box. Astfel poti sa pui un filtru de carbon mult mai mic pentru ca flow-ul de aer necesar pentru ventilarea boxului tau e cam 10-15 cfm ( daca cooltube-ul e ventilat cum trebuie ). Iar pentru ventilatorul pentru cooltube nu mai trebuie sa ii pui deloc filtru, el ia aer din afara, trece peste cooltube si iese inapoi afara, astfel nu poate sa ia mirosuri cu el( daca iti sigilezi bine canalul evident).


Sper ca ti-am fost de folos cu ceva. Uite un thread despre ventilatie: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=112862

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