[KalyxKid]

That's exciting news about the new seeds...I hope to test many of them out in 2012. I am still new to modern growing, I did one crop over ten years ago under shoplights, and now look!

The three CC seeds are to hopefully fill a gap where I'd like to be harvesting in about two months, so I think if I keep lights at 18/6 I can finish close enough.

My blue himalaya (2nd auto ever) under 24 hour LED w/cfl supplmt. is too big and bushy, although that's not bad in an of itself, it seems to be taking longer to jump into flowering, so I switched to 20/4 last night and hopefully I can harvest at 10 weeks. It is almost 49 days old, barely 8" with that many nodes fighting for light like all get out. I'm thinking of training them down towards the pot, to make a real Christmas tree.

Check out this crazy afghan kush freebie I got, I swear it is a couple days since it formed real leaves! This will become my first attempt at cloning. I might need three rooms just so I can one with perpetual autos!

[KalyxKid]

I just ordered 3 Fast Bud #2, so I will have up to 6 Sweet seeds to grow soon! Can you compare Fast Bud #1 and #2? I think I grew #1.

Also, how to you compare Fast Bud #2 and Speed Devil #2? I chose Fast Bud #2 because of the incredible sale now, but now I would like to understand the differences in the varieties a bit more.

Thanks!

[Tommy G]

Hi KalyxKid!

Thanks for the visit, pics and comments!

All looking good my friend, hope you enjoy your next sweets also

About comparing Fast Bud #1 and Fast Bud #2, the genetics are the same but in the second version there is more work from the breeders trying to get it as close as possible to her non-auto version, which in the case of Fast Bud would be the Diesel genes, the same present in Ice Cool. So you could even say that Fast Bud #2 is even more closer to be an "Ice Cool Auto" than the 1st version already was, if you know what I mean. From the ruderalis family the 2nd generation autos almost only have the characteristic of autoflowering, the other less desirable characteristics, so to say, are almost gone in the 2nd generation and will be definetly gone when we get to the 4th, 5th, 6th generations, when the good work of the breeders, year after year, gets them closer and closer to their non-auto version. It will come to a day that they will be 99% the same, except for the autoflowering characteristic (and quickness to, of course).

About the difference between Speed Devil #2 and Fast Bud #2 I can tell you that they share the same autoflowering genes, because the characteristic comes from the same ruderalis parental, and then the difference is that in Fast Bud #2 you have a Diesel Auto and in Speed Devil #2 you have an auto with different genes. I don't know more about the parentals of Speed Devil #2 besides what we can read in the catalog, but they produce more or less the same, Fast Bud #2 is faster, maybe one week faster and the size of the plants is also more or less the same.

Hope this helps my friend. Keep passing by to see how my 2nd Generation Autos develop

Sweet smokes

tommy

[Tommy G]

I will very soon post another update with the transplant of the plants to the final pots...

In the meanwhile you can have a look at how they are now at day 17 since germination



Keep it sweet!

tommy

[Tommy G]

So...

Next post, next page, next update

tommy

[Tommy G]

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★ 17 days + Transplanting ★






Hi mates!

All good? Thanks for the visit and comments

Sorry for the delay with this update. So, this time the transplant was at day 17 from germination, but from my experience with this autos I'm starting to think the correct day to transplant to the final pots is day 15, or between day 13 and day 16. So I would do it a little earlier next time. This, of course, with pots of the size I'm using: 500ml pots for the first 2 weeks and with a pot of 7 litres or more from there to harvest. I'm sure that my plants will now spread their roots using all the soil available.

This time I'm doing it cutting the bottom of the pots, and putting them directly in the bigger pots, as you can see in the pics. I know some of you guys in this forum use this same "method" and I really agree that it may have a few advantages, so I'm giving it a try.

Well, I'll leave you now with the reports and some pics...

Watering Report [day 12]

• pH of the water: 6,4
• Fertilizer: Nothing yet
• Bloom stimulator: No
• Quantity of water per plant: 90ml (500ml pots)
• Watering frequency: once every 2 days

Starting with a couple of pics with the 6 plants...




As I told you in the first posts of this thread I had to select 2 plants, one from each variety, and exclude them from this diary. It was not easy at all, they are all looking very good and very similar to each other. They are all healthy and growing with lots of vigour, no visible differences at all, as you can see in the pics. But well, the 2 plants that will be adopted by a friend will be this beautiful couple:



Bye, bye ladies

Probably we're not going to see them anymore in this thread, but at least their sisters will be around for a while to tell us their genetic story.

Watering Report [day 14]

• pH of the water: 6,3
• Fertilizer: Nothing yet
• Bloom stimulator: No
• Quantity of water per plant: 120ml (500ml pots)
• Watering frequency: once every 3 days

To the Canna Bio Plus soil I added a little extra of perlite, a bit of vermiculite and 50gr per plant of guanokalong batguano powder.




Here's a picture of the 3 Big Devil #2...

The Weather

• Maximum temperature: 23,6º
• Minimum temperature: 16,8º
• Thermic amplitude: 6,8º
• Humidity with HPS: 46%
• Humidity without HPS: 77%

Color scale > Green: optimal | Orange: satisfying | Brown: worrying | Red: dangerous

Some very beautiful Big Devil #2 leaves in this pictures...

And this is how they are going to stay...



...but cutting the pot bottom first, like we can see in the next pictures...







We can't see lots of roots in there but with autos we have no time to wait for them to fill the whole place with their mean devils roots, hehehe ...so we need to transplant them as soon as possible, because in 10 days from now they'll be flowering.

Now you can see how I do the transplanting, it's just leaving the pot without bottom on the surface of the soil, hehe...

[Tommy G]

And the first Big Devil #2 is done...




One done, 3 left...




The roots of a Fast Bud #2...




And heere you go... the 4 plants in their final pots, ready for an explosive flowering:







And that's all for today. Now I'll be back in a week with a new update where I think plants will already be with a few pistils.

Thanks for visiting the diary!

Sweet smokes

tommy

[KalyxKid]

Thanks, Tommy! That more than answers my questions. I am very excited to start my Cream Caramels. I won't compare them to yours, haha, but we'll see how they do under LED. I am pretty happy with my Blue Himalaya so far, and in my opinion only, the Fast Bud #1 was less leafy and more bud, but it grew outside with sometimes 50% cloudy days...this time it will get 20/4 lighting every day.

Your journals teach me a lot about how to grow these autos, and I also am using your transplant method, but I think I need to use a larger 2nd pot...it seems like pot-size and transplant timing are the keys to maximizing yield.

Gracias amigo! Will be following this one closely

[KalyxKid]

I'm happy to say that three Cream Caramel Autos have hatched. I'm really impressed with the quality of the seeds - very dark and they all sprouted within a day, very robust! Thank you Sweet Seeds I can already tell they will be healthy ladies.

[KalyxKid]

I realize you transplant much earlier than I would have thought...so around two weeks you think is best? My CC girls are now about 10 days old, not too far off from your pics.

I can apply this knowledge almost immediately. Thanks again for sharing your auto cultivation skills.